From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:52:22 +0200 Message-ID: <48407716.5080704@gmail.com> References: <87fxs0hrrv.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212184367 25970 80.91.229.12 (30 May 2008 21:52:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Florian Beck Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 23:53:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K2CXP-00045L-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:53:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34184 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CWd-0005uG-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CWa-0005uB-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CWX-0005tz-WC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35683 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CWX-0005tw-TH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:60803) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CWX-0003ru-Pd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:44200) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CUo-0005Q0-BB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:50:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CWT-0003rE-Ny for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:44154) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CWT-0003r4-4e for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:29 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:63255 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CWO-00073A-94; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:52:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> X-Antivirus: avast! 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98094 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22502 Archived-At: Florian Beck wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > >> Florian Beck wrote: >>> Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers >>> usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. >>> >>> Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. >>> >>> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug >>> and the precise symptoms of the bug: >>> >>> If I send a bug with >>> >>> emacs -Q >>> M-x report-emacs-bug >>> >>> emacs trys to use sendmail-user-agent by default. >>> >>> This doesn't work, which is no surprise because I haven't even installed >>> sendmail. >>> >>> What *is* a problem is that there is no indication that sending the >>> message failed. Emacs even displays Sending…done. >>> >>> if I wouldn't read emacs-pretest-bug, I'd never known by bug report was >>> not delivered. >> Is not this similar to the situation we had before on w32? The >> solution to that was mailclient-send-it in mailclient.el. > > No, this happens on Ubuntu and probably on many gnu-linux-systems that > do not install sendmail by default. I'm sorry, I forgot the system information. > (see below) > > Also, I'm not looking for a workaround. (After I set mail-user-agent to > gnus-user-agent everything is fine.) I'm reporting that on systems > without sendmail bug reports likely disappear without trace. What I meant is that we should not require users to use any special mail agent to send bug reports. If they just have a system mail client set up it should work by using that. Perhaps you did not have a system mail client set up? > In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) > of 2008-05-29 on aeschylus > Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10400090 > configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit=no' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O0 -fno-crossjumping -g'' >