From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24759: 25.1.50; electric-quote-mode Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <48240d67-ab6c-e7ec-9f77-bddbe1c07b83@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83wph1qxrw.fsf@gnu.org> <74d0a4a5-014e-b365-9d89-ad03a7fc6430@cs.ucla.edu> <83shrori8z.fsf@gnu.org> <87r378b37k.fsf@linux-m68k.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477194995 1309 195.159.176.226 (23 Oct 2016 03:56:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 03:56:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Cc: 24759@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 23 05:56:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tJ-0005ZV-Vx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 05:56:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tM-00083c-6L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35797) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tF-00083M-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tC-0004gE-OA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59569) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tC-0004gA-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1by9tC-00050D-FL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 03:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24759 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24759-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24759.147719493519191 (code B ref 24759); Sun, 23 Oct 2016 03:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24759) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2016 03:55:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46735 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1by9sl-0004zT-4X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:32802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1by9sk-0004zF-0x for 24759@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D94D160017; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 2JZOYi9wOLfI; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF30160F90; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fZU--wTsZrZ1; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.178.162]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9E0016026B; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r378b37k.fsf@linux-m68k.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:124866 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab wrote: > A typical French user will use a utf-8 locale. Yes, and to some extent this subthread is a tempest in a teapot, since ty= pical=20 French users now either use a UTF-8 locale, or perhaps the C locale, and = Emacs=20 works fine in both these cases. That is, when I run this: LC_ALL=3DC emacs -Q newfile C-x 8 [ RET C-x C-s on Fedora 24, Emacs saves the file using UTF-8 without prompting the user= for an=20 encoding - basically, it is bypassing the locale settings for this file, = which=20 is a reasonable thing to do. As I understand it, this subthread is about what Emacs should do in a uni= byte=20 locale that isn't the C locale. It's not clear to me why these locales (w= hich=20 are no longer that important) should be treated differently from a unibyt= e C=20 locale for this sort of situation.