From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 10:51:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4822CD22.5090705@gnu.org> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4822C648.7050901@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210240349 22130 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 09:52:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 11:53:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju2o7-0004PV-Km for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 11:52:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58499 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2nP-00027f-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2nI-00026z-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2nH-00026P-T3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41656 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2nH-00026E-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]:32069) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju2mw-0000A6-7Y; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:51:49 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 76676361/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgFAG9pIkhTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBU6pI X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 May 2008 10:51:35 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE751488; Thu, 8 May 2008 10:51:33 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96750 Archived-At: Miles Bader wrote: > Jason Rumney writes: > >> Another problem with it is that it would appear that nothing is >> happening as Emacs is starting. >> > > Is that really such a problem though? Other apps seem to do that quite > often. > > Anyway, a specialized "Starting Emacs..." splash screen could use a simple > hard-wired image and skip all the grot associated with emacs image > loading. [Indeed, just embed the image as a pixmap in the C code...] > Yes, PPM is an option, as that does not require external libraries. I think the problem with displaying nothing is that loading .emacs could take a very long time if the user has a lot of code in there (comparable to Gimp loading all its plugins). It is probably a good idea to also display messages in the splash screen so the user can see progress happening (including any "el is newer than elc" and "XXX is obsolete" messages that come up).