From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What IDE features are in CEDET? Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4812567F.6030500@gmail.com> References: <200804251727.m3PHRv2b012968@projectile.siege-engine.com> <48123A8F.6090504@gmail.com> <200804252145.m3PLjDMj013623@projectile.siege-engine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209161397 31442 80.91.229.12 (25 Apr 2008 22:09:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric M. Ludlam" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 26 00:10:32 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JpW7k-0005oq-8D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:10:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51742 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpW74-0002zl-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpW6P-0002LY-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpW6O-0002KN-OF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60197 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpW6O-0002KD-K4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JpW6O-0006ZZ-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:64245 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JpW6L-0001IW-7s; Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:09:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <200804252145.m3PLjDMj013623@projectile.siege-engine.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080425-1, 2008-04-25), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JpW6L-0001IW-7s. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JpW6L-0001IW-7s 8dd0b329c7014062ee3bc7e6e6c596b3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95954 Archived-At: Eric M. Ludlam wrote: > If you > suspect the existing nxml parser output could be translated into the > same style of output as Semantic's tag structures, that can work, but > I'm not entirely sure what would be done with the results since xml > is flexible enough to cause every schema to need it's own translator > into Semantic tag format. I no nothing about the details. What I thought was that Semantic (or perhaps more the user interface part of it) could ask nxml-mode for the state, completione possibilities etc, whenever needed. > Semantic has incremental parsing also, but only have a full pass has > been done. That reminds me of that Emacs font-lock can do a second pass where context is taken into account. (If I have understood things correctly.) > There was a long thread on this topic in the cedet-devel@sf.net > mailing list. Semantic's mode targeting is done using > "mode-local.el" which is part of CEDET, which allows simple context > switching between language features in a single buffer. Seems like a needed feature. > You are talking about multiple languages in > a single buffer which is different. Yes, but sometimes you can have view the buffer content either way. For example a buffer containing a php file can be viewed as either just consisting of php code (which of course is a valid view) or as some part containing xhtml and some containing php script code. The advantages/disadvanteges is of course those you have mentioned. I mention this just to make the concepts more clear.