From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
"Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:53:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480CF0A1.70609@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85hcdvxekg.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
David Kastrup wrote:
> Try S-Right S-Right C-x C-x Left. The region is not extended.
>
That is as I'd expect. Shift-selection should act like mouse selection,
not like traditional C-SPC setting of mark then moving point.
> Or try something like C-SPC Right Right C-x C-x S-Left and look and
> behold, the existing active region gets removed and a new is started.
>
> What is the design for that, if any? Can somebody express the current
> default semantics in a few simple sentences?
>
Don't mix C-SPC setting of the mark and Shift-movement. Use one or the
other.
Separating them like this is the only way to make Shift-selection act
like users coming to Emacs from other programs expect it to. Trying to
kludge a solution where Shift-selection and C-SPC are interchangable
breaks users' expectations, and if we do that, what is the point of
enabling Shift selection at all?
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Thread overview: 279+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-18 22:06 FW: commands to select things of different kinds Drew Adams
2008-04-19 3:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-19 20:11 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-19 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-19 20:33 ` delete-selection-mode (was: FW: commands to select things of different kinds) Juri Linkov
2008-04-20 13:47 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-19 23:18 ` FW: commands to select things of different kinds Richard Stallman
2008-04-19 23:43 ` delete-selection-mode (was: FW: commands to select things of different kinds) Juri Linkov
2008-04-20 10:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-04-20 14:57 ` delete-selection-mode Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-21 3:08 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 3:59 ` delete-selection-mode Thomas Lord
2008-04-21 19:47 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 20:57 ` delete-selection-mode Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-21 21:40 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 18:34 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2008-04-20 19:25 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 19:31 ` delete-selection-mode Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-20 19:48 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-20 20:28 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 20:32 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-20 20:53 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 21:20 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-20 21:42 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 5:37 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 6:18 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 6:24 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 6:40 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 9:36 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 16:44 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 17:47 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 18:12 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 19:53 ` Jason Rumney [this message]
2008-04-21 20:02 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 20:28 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 6:44 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-21 14:19 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 16:41 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 17:01 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 17:45 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 17:58 ` delete-selection-mode Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-04-21 18:36 ` delete-selection-mode Paul R
2008-04-21 18:51 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 19:04 ` delete-selection-mode Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-21 19:48 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 20:06 ` delete-selection-mode Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-21 20:09 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 20:10 ` delete-selection-mode Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-21 19:54 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 19:56 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2008-04-21 20:07 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-22 4:20 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-22 5:34 ` delete-selection-mode Thomas Lord
2008-04-22 8:10 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2008-04-22 8:38 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-22 20:08 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-22 20:08 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 20:03 ` delete-selection-mode Paul R
2008-04-21 20:39 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-21 19:51 ` delete-selection-mode Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-04-21 20:06 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 19:10 ` delete-selection-mode Robert J. Chassell
2008-04-21 19:47 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-22 12:20 ` delete-selection-mode Robert J. Chassell
2008-04-22 12:34 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-22 15:54 ` delete-selection-mode Robert J. Chassell
2008-04-22 13:29 ` delete-selection-mode David Reitter
2008-04-21 19:47 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2008-04-20 21:06 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-20 21:27 ` delete-selection-mode Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-20 22:28 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-20 19:32 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-20 19:37 ` delete-selection-mode (was: FW: commands to select things of different kinds) Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-20 19:29 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2008-04-20 21:26 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2008-04-20 21:45 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 0:10 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-21 0:23 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-21 1:44 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-21 0:28 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2008-04-21 1:44 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2008-04-21 3:07 ` delete-selection-mode (was: FW: commands to select things of different kinds) Richard Stallman
2008-04-19 20:35 ` FW: commands to select things of different kinds Drew Adams
2008-04-19 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-19 23:22 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-20 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-21 0:13 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] <E1Nq9QM-0005sN-MO@internal.in.savannah.gnu.org>
2010-03-12 22:58 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX James Cloos
2010-03-12 23:23 ` Chong Yidong
[not found] ` <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu>
2010-03-13 1:14 ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-17 0:54 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.) Juri Linkov
2010-03-17 4:51 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default onUNIX.) Drew Adams
2010-03-17 21:32 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-17 22:08 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 1:38 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-18 5:21 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-18 21:06 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-18 21:06 ` delete-selection-mode Johan Bockgård
2010-03-18 21:23 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-17 10:12 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 13:28 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-17 13:56 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 18:07 ` delete-selection-mode joakim
2010-03-17 14:35 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.) Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-17 19:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-17 19:38 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 19:53 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-17 20:24 ` delete-selection-mode Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-17 20:36 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 21:09 ` delete-selection-mode Óscar Fuentes
2010-03-17 21:25 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-17 21:37 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-17 21:55 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-17 22:24 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 7:53 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 2:48 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-17 21:43 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-18 7:56 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 14:27 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-18 17:15 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 20:54 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-21 8:21 ` delete-selection-mode Manoj Srivastava
2010-03-21 9:01 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-21 15:33 ` delete-selection-mode Manoj Srivastava
2010-03-21 15:43 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 0:55 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-18 0:33 ` delete-selection-mode Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-03-18 0:42 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.) Richard Stallman
2010-03-18 1:48 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-18 2:57 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-18 16:37 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-18 16:41 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-18 18:02 ` delete-selection-mode Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-03-19 15:56 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-19 16:42 ` delete-selection-mode Chad Brown
2010-03-20 2:24 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 2:36 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-20 5:42 ` delete-selection-mode Uwe Siart
2010-03-20 16:49 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 16:53 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-20 17:15 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-21 22:27 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-22 1:04 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-22 1:16 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 6:48 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-22 1:21 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-22 2:04 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-22 15:25 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-22 15:29 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 0:21 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 4:58 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-23 7:48 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-23 9:02 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-23 16:13 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-23 16:40 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-23 17:13 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-23 17:23 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 18:09 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-24 9:29 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 13:34 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 7:07 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 17:44 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26 7:02 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-26 20:13 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26 5:04 ` delete-selection-mode Kevin Rodgers
2010-03-26 5:11 ` delete-selection-mode Daniel Colascione
2010-03-26 7:03 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-26 7:37 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-23 21:52 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-23 22:07 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-24 0:47 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 17:57 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-26 2:48 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26 17:29 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-26 20:20 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 3:51 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-26 6:03 ` delete-selection-mode joakim
2010-03-26 12:51 ` delete-selection-mode Teemu Likonen
2010-03-23 17:18 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 17:18 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 17:33 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-22 6:44 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-22 7:41 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-22 13:51 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 7:48 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-24 14:37 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-24 15:15 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-24 20:27 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-25 2:55 ` delete-selection-mode David Reitter
2010-03-20 18:28 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-21 22:27 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-19 15:56 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-19 17:21 ` delete-selection-mode Chong Yidong
2010-03-19 19:01 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-23 3:01 ` delete-selection-mode Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-23 15:20 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-18 17:35 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 15:56 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-19 18:52 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 22:28 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-19 23:59 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-20 2:24 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 3:40 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-20 16:49 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 17:36 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 2:02 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2010-03-19 2:46 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 6:35 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 7:43 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-20 2:23 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 3:53 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2010-03-20 4:33 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-20 11:31 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-20 16:50 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 16:51 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-20 17:37 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-21 1:15 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-21 2:59 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-20 21:58 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-21 1:17 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-21 4:56 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-21 11:36 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-20 16:50 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-20 17:32 ` delete-selection-mode Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-03-21 22:27 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-03-19 3:39 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-19 3:50 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 17:06 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 8:18 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 21:33 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-18 3:15 ` delete-selection-mode Kevin Rodgers
2010-03-18 4:40 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.) Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-18 8:21 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 16:14 ` delete-selection-mode Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-18 10:12 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.) Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-18 10:30 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 14:52 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-18 15:06 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 17:15 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 18:27 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 18:39 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-18 18:54 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 1:28 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-19 6:33 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 7:43 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 21:55 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 1:23 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-19 2:33 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 6:31 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 7:43 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 21:57 ` delete-selection-mode Johan Bockgård
2010-03-18 14:15 ` delete-selection-mode Jason Rumney
2010-03-18 14:34 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 15:35 ` delete-selection-mode Berndl, Klaus
2010-03-18 15:57 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 17:16 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-18 20:51 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-18 21:25 ` delete-selection-mode Miles Bader
2010-03-18 21:45 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 0:35 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-19 6:28 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 14:49 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-03-18 15:02 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 17:15 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by defaulton UNIX.) Drew Adams
2010-03-18 18:35 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 19:22 ` delete-selection-mode Chad Brown
2010-03-18 21:55 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 6:32 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 7:43 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 8:07 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 11:05 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-03-19 13:14 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 22:27 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
2010-03-21 8:26 ` delete-selection-mode Manoj Srivastava
2010-03-17 16:18 ` delete-selection-mode Glenn Morris
2010-03-17 21:46 ` delete-selection-mode Juri Linkov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-17 19:31 AW: delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-17 20:49 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-18 9:24 ` delete-selection-mode Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-18 9:57 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-18 18:54 delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by defaulton UNIX.) Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-18 21:54 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by defaultonUNIX.) Drew Adams
2010-03-19 9:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-19 10:30 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 11:09 ` delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by defaultonUNIX.) Lennart Borgman
2010-03-19 13:26 ` delete-selection-mode David Kastrup
2010-03-19 13:47 ` delete-selection-mode Lennart Borgman
2010-03-19 19:05 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-04-29 4:42 delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
2010-04-29 13:32 ` delete-selection-mode Stefan Monnier
2010-04-29 18:06 ` delete-selection-mode James Cloos
2010-04-29 18:27 ` delete-selection-mode Deniz Dogan
2010-04-29 19:47 ` delete-selection-mode Drew Adams
2010-04-29 20:37 ` delete-selection-mode Kim F. Storm
2010-04-30 5:54 ` delete-selection-mode Richard Stallman
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