From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: undo C-_ and C-/: mention hex codes Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:39:24 +0100 Message-ID: <48061DAC.5030107@gnu.org> References: <87ve2hc0td.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208361342 3007 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 15:55:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 17:55:51 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jm9kT-00019Z-Ft for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:40:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm9jp-0000HO-20 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm9jk-0000G4-Bx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm9ji-0000EK-Nw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jm9ji-0000EC-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jm9ji-0000pm-Et for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:39:50 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 61006594/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EAHm6BUhTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBYK0w X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Apr 2008 16:39:49 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D7914F1; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:39:51 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: <87ve2hc0td.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17849 Archived-At: jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > In the emacs manual at the several places where it talks about the > undo keys C-_ and C-/, please also mention what hex codes you are > talking about (0x1F) etc. Maybe you are just talking about the same > 0x1F and 0x1F, or maybe two different codes. The user wants to know. > I've yet to meet a user who thinks about keybindings in terms of "hex codes", whatever that means. If you're talking about the ASCII control codes that happen to be produced by some control key sequences on text terminals, then I think it would just confuse users, the majority of whom these days are using graphical terminals that deal with key events, not ASCII character sequences.