From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Octave Help Mode? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:52:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4804F970.8010201@gmail.com> References: <8763ujc6h7.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208285908 29773 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2008 18:58:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:58:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 20:58:38 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlqHo-0002ia-TL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:53:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlqH9-0008QD-7c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlqGm-0008P6-Dv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:52:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlqGl-0008O9-1G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:52:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlqGk-0008O6-VR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JlqGk-0005YB-H1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:64001 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JlqGi-0002Xv-4R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:52:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <8763ujc6h7.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080415-1, 2008-04-15), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JlqGi-0002Xv-4R. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JlqGi-0002Xv-4R f14634aca4f14b97bba3228b438fc57e X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53314 Archived-At: David Hansen wrote: > And by the way, I think it's very questionable if it still counts as > "science" if you use proprietary software, if you don't have at least > full access to the source code. It is good thinking, but I am sorry to say that too much of science today is "proprietary" in one sense or another. If you interested then there is a lot to study and think about. Some of my favorite questions are: - Who decide what research to do? Why? Consequences? - Who decide what framework/paradigm to use? Why? Consequences? - Who decide what we can read without paying? Why? Consequences? - Who decide who can do research? Why? Consequences? Perhaps read Pierre Bourdieu, Michael Focault. There is a lot more than positivistic thinking to look into.