From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs does not listen on w32 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:39:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4803CEFF.9020707@gnu.org> References: <4800D965.9080202@gmail.com> <480208C8.3030401@gnu.org> <480212F7.7090409@gmail.com> <4802249D.2060909@gmail.com> <480271D2.7040304@gmail.com> <4802FD64.1080602@gmail.com> <48038487.3060201@gmail.com> <4803BA8B.9060301@gnu.org> <4803BFB3.4080104@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208209195 20716 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2008 21:39:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 14 23:40:24 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlWPV-00034N-Gf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:40:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlWOr-0003rz-4l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlWOb-0003hi-FO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlWOY-0003ew-Bm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlWOY-0003ei-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.4]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JlWOR-0007DR-2V; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:39:15 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 6620519/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0FAOJrA0hTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBXah0 X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 14 Apr 2008 22:39:10 +0100 Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonr.f2s.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458949; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:39:12 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080110) In-Reply-To: <4803BFB3.4080104@gmail.com> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95219 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > Thanks, I did not know about that. Does the shutdown handler take care > of the WM_QUERYMESSAGE behind the scenes in some way that Emacs can > ask the user to save data (which the action that message is supposed > to result in)? No, applications are not supposed to ask the user anything during shutdown if they can possibly avoid it by doing autosaves. See the previous thread on the subject, and the dire warnings in Microsoft's new documentation about the changes they made in Vista to avoid the all too common situation where some mystery program prevents your machine shutting down by either opening a dialog somewhere where you cannot see it, or not opening one at all and telling the system not to shut down at this time.