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From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bootstrapping Emacs-23.0.60-trunk newly broken (GNU/Linux, Cygwin)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:18:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48007E59.7040805@alice.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u7if3a31s.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii ha scritto:
>> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:45:00 +0200
>> From: Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
>>
>> cd emacs
>> ./configure
>> make bootstrap
>>
>>
>> Yes, it is heavy, but it is the only clean method that will guarantee 
>> the patches do no introduce regressions.
> 
> Actually, there is no practical way to know for sure that changes
> don't introduce regressions, in general.  While "make bootstrap" will
> make sure a bootstrap works on the submitter's machine (and is
> recommended to those that can afford it), it says nothing about other
> ways of building Emacs, nor about other machines and OSes we support.

Obviously.

But how could the trunk users to test a new patch if it breaks the 
bootstrap?

I thought that passing the bootstrap was the minimal request for 
submitting a patch and that this would be reached if all start with the 
same conditions in bootstrapping.

Sorry if I has been wrong.

> So please calm down.  The development trunk will inevitably become
> broken from time to time, no matter what.  If you must build the trunk
> every day or even more frequently, and depend on the resulting binary
> for your daily work, I suggest to make some arrangements to have the
> previous working build available until you are sure the new one builds
> and works successfully.

I think that on my backup DVDs I have working build until two months ago.

And if I build so often, it is to avoid the pile-up of bugs (when they 
are present) that would make hard to solve, mainly on Cygwin, on which 
no cygwin-guys take care of them.

Sorry newly for the noise,
   Angelo.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-12  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-11  9:06 Bootstrapping Emacs-23.0.60-trunk still fails (GNU/Linux, Cygwin) Angelo Graziosi
2008-04-12  7:45 ` Bootstrapping Emacs-23.0.60-trunk newly broken " Angelo Graziosi
2008-04-12  8:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12  9:18     ` Angelo Graziosi [this message]
2008-04-12  9:27       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-12 11:46         ` Romain Francoise
2008-04-12 12:12           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-12 12:16           ` martin rudalics
2008-04-12 13:41             ` Romain Francoise
2008-04-12 12:53           ` martin rudalics
2008-04-13  9:31             ` Romain Francoise
2008-04-13 14:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14  0:52               ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12 13:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-12 14:06           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-12 14:24           ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-04-12 10:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12  9:28   ` Eli Zaretskii

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