From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tab bar Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:59:28 +0200 Message-ID: <47FCD9D0.4060709@gmail.com> References: <87wsnaso3h.fsf@jurta.org> <87d4p2tuim.fsf@jurta.org> <47FA3EBE.5040600@gmail.com> <6161f3180804080658i3bb41ba2g4012870615c522d7@mail.gmail.com> <47FB7F79.6050906@gmail.com> <87k5j8jq93.fsf@gmail.com> <200804081604.m38G4s0e019532@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <6161f3180804080925l7cc33c85uea3209e945117fe6@mail.gmail.com> <47FBD126.9040807@gmail.com> <47FBE0B1.2030600@harpegolden.net> <47FBE7E3.4080905@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207753215 20655 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2008 15:00:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david@harpegolden.net, andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, koppel@ece.lsu.edu, paul.r.ml@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 17:00:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jjbmp-0000o8-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:00:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjbmC-00021E-9A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:59:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jjbm8-00020u-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:59:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jjbm7-00020W-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:59:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jjbm7-00020T-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jjbm2-0007ut-R7; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:59:43 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:60617 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jjbm0-0008R8-9a; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:59:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080409-0, 2008-04-09), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jjbm0-0008R8-9a. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Jjbm0-0008R8-9a 903a9ec607ba96ab441690a64f81d55f X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94795 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > I can't understand this. Why are they fighting a (rather) well > established standard on w32 instead of using it to their favor to get > new users? > > Please let's NOT discuss that question here. It is a distraction > and a waste of time. Those who want to discuss it, please > take it elsewhere. Yes, I will try to avoid it. Anyway I searched a bit on the net and maybe this summary can be useful: http://userfriendly.free.fr/christopher/en/index.php?2006/02/21/4-standard-keyboard-shortcuts Obviously the author have been struggling with the same kind of problems that we have here. We need not at all agree with his points, but he have some useful links.