From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tab bar Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:55:48 +0100 Message-ID: <47FC7684.2030203@gnu.org> References: <87wsnaso3h.fsf@jurta.org> <87d4p2tuim.fsf@jurta.org> <47FA3EBE.5040600@gmail.com> <6161f3180804080658i3bb41ba2g4012870615c522d7@mail.gmail.com> <47FB7F79.6050906@gmail.com> <87k5j8jq93.fsf@gmail.com> <200804081604.m38G4s0e019532@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <6161f3180804080925l7cc33c85uea3209e945117fe6@mail.gmail.com> <47FBD126.9040807@gmail.com> <47FBE0B1.2030600@harpegolden.net> <47FBE7E3.4080905@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207727785 23117 80.91.229.12 (9 Apr 2008 07:56:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, David De La Harpe Golden , "Andrew W. Nosenko" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov , koppel@ece.lsu.edu, Paul R To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 09:56:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjVAt-0006RD-6o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:56:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjVAF-0007k0-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjVAC-0007jm-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JjVAA-0007jS-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JjVAA-0007jP-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjVA5-0006eE-R7; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjVA5-00037I-4f; Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:56:05 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 90760452/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgEAOYT/EdTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBXKsN X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2008 08:56:03 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B491C8; Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:56:06 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: <47FBE7E3.4080905@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94759 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > I can't understand this. Why are they fighting a (rather) well > established standard on w32 instead of using it to their favor to get > new users? I'm not sure they are. C-tab is the standard keybinding for switching between child windows in an application, not for switching between tabs. What do Windows applications that have both tiled windows and tabs do (eg MSVC)? Do some applications just use C-tab in addition to C-pagedown because there are no child windows and C-tab is otherwise available?