From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preserving sanity in Emacs [Re: rampant region highlighting] Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:07:44 +0100 Message-ID: <47FAA940.10302@harpegolden.net> References: <47F945C3.1060103@harpegolden.net> <20080406230056.GB5362@muc.de> <47F961D2.7080002@harpegolden.net> <20080407212617.GC2078@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207609719 21960 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2008 23:08:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 08 01:09:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jj0SU-00037S-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:09:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jj0Rp-0002jP-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:08:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jj0Ri-0002hO-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jj0Re-0002Yh-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jj0Re-0002YZ-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jj0RV-0003KY-Br; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (86-43-174-84.b-ras2.prp.dublin.eircom.net [86.43.174.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 2" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E27850D; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:07:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080110) In-Reply-To: <20080407212617.GC2078@muc.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94639 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > With LCD[*] editors, sometimes pressing 'a' will teleport you to far > off place, sometimes not. "a" is still always inserted where the point is... > Not that big. For a start, you notice it before you've gone very far. > Pressing _always_ takes point away from where it was. > So, how do you move point rapidly to somewhere else in a buffer? There's > not much point using the key, if the moment you try to do > something you're jump-scrolled back to where you started. That just depends on whether you conceptualise a "page down" keypress as "move the point down by a page, and scroll to follow" or "scroll the viewport down (or up) by a page". Actually, both would be possible from the keyboard- in most X11 terminal emulators, shift-pgup/dn scrolls without moving the point. (though I guess that should be for shift-selection by pages in emacs, and M-pgdn/up for scroll-other-window is handy. C-pgdn/up is taken too, for scroll-left/right (not the most intuitive binding, that, byt hey, I tend to use line wrapping anyway), but that really only leaves C-M-pgdn/up for page-up-leaving-point-where-it-is.