From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Odd behavior of maximized windows Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:26 -0400 Message-ID: <47F24A0E.9050603@boost-consulting.com> References: <87skya20ro.fsf@gutsy.luannocracy.com> <47EFD4F3.70300@swipnet.se> <87hceorqnk.fsf@gutsy.luannocracy.com> <47F082D1.60808@swipnet.se> <47F12F7F.8010101@boost-consulting.com> <47F1F483.8070709@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207061044 2318 80.91.229.12 (1 Apr 2008 14:44:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 01 16:44:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jghiq-0000gd-LG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:44:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JghiE-0004u2-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jghi8-0004t2-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jghi7-0004s9-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jghi7-0004s6-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jghi6-0007tU-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jghi6-0006uD-Dx for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jghi2-0007lv-Re for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:37 -0400 Original-Received: from boost-consulting.com ([206.71.190.141]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jghi2-0007hl-3Q for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:43:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.188.102] (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) (Authenticated sender: dave) by boost-consulting.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627461CC27; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) In-Reply-To: <47F1F483.8070709@swipnet.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Error: This connection is not (no longer?) in the cache. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94116 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21836 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: >=20 >> Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: >>> >>> David Abrahams skrev: >>>> on Sun Mar 30 2008, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: >>>> >>>>> I also run Emerald, Gnome, Compiz and alse see Emerald crashes. I >>>>> don't have >>>>> maximized Emacs:es. But I see that sometimes compiz maximizes >>>>> windows by >>>>> itself when the become "too large" (exactly what that means I don't >>>>> know). >>>>> >>>>> Do you have other maximized windows that don't cover the entire >>>>> screen after a >>>>> restart? =20 >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>>> Window manager decorations is really up to the window manager, Emac= s >>>>> doesn't do anything about this by itself. >>>> I figured as much, but it must be doing something differently from, >>>> e.g., Thunderbird, or I wouldn't be seeing this effect. >>>> >>> I will run some tests. I guess there is some property one should set >>> which Emacs doesn't. Stay tuned... >=20 > I have run several tests and killed Emerald manually, but my Emacs > always comes back with window decorations. >=20 > When Emacs is maximized, the window manager sets _NET_WM_STATE, usually= to > _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ. >=20 > When it is restarted it shall look at the NET_WM_STATE and restore it a= s > it was before the crash. If WM_STATE is set to _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREE= N > however, you would see the behaviour you are seeing. >=20 > Can you do > % xprop | grep NET_WM_STATE >=20 > and then click in the maximized Emacs window? What is the output? _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) =3D _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ > Do you know what version of Emerald you have? =20 Here's the package info: Package: emerald Priority: optional Section: universe/x11 Installed-Size: 956 Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers Original-Maintainer: Nicholas Thomas Architecture: i386 Version: 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 > If you run this with for > example Metacity, do you see the same effect? I don't know how to duplicate the dying window decorator effect with Metacity, so it's hard to tell you. Thanks again for going to such lengths on this one. --=20 Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com