From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:24:42 +0200 Message-ID: <47EFF70A.3030700@gmail.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324200911.GA1310@muc.de> <001e01c88dee$34267e90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080324210229.GB1310@muc.de> <85myogm1to.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206908714 14397 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 20:25:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: paul r , M Jared Finder , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 30 22:25:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg463-0002J1-BJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:25:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg45R-0003TR-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg45O-0003SY-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg45N-0003Ri-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg45M-0003Rb-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg45J-0002uL-8e; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:60813 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg45G-0001vr-9K; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:24:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <85myogm1to.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080330-0, 2008-03-30), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jg45G-0001vr-9K. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Jg45G-0001vr-9K 4ddcf45ff2aac40369db070e3ddc14e7 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93943 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > "paul r" writes: > >> 2008/3/30, M Jared Finder : >> >>> If you want to keep users coming to Emacs to stay with Emacs, cua-mode >>> should be on by default. >> Although I hope your POV is a bit extremist as of today, I think you >> stated clearly the general trend. As I previously said between lines, >> I'm experiencing similar behaviour of people giving up emacs after a >> few days because of unacceptable (to them) drop in their >> "productivity". > > cua-mode will not help them much. Emacs will remain different. In contrary I think cua-mode is an excellent help for many beginners. That Emacs is different does not mean that cua-mode does not help.