From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift selection using interactive spec Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:02:40 +0100 Message-ID: <47EA3B60.40107@gmail.com> References: <87k5k69p92.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874pb9koyw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9gzqv9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bq5gytbi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8763vndi0r.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcf6ratt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878x0if9ul.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9e9gnx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skyo5bvk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skynrin5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87iqzju0lq.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <851w5xx5ya.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ve3993dt.fsf@jurta.org> <86d4ph67ql.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206533053 13179 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2008 12:04:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , M Jared Finder , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 26 13:04:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JeUMw-00087j-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:04:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeUML-0004M9-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeULG-0003nC-SB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeULD-0003mB-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeULC-0003m4-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:02:50 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeUL8-0004qY-QQ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:02:47 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:62461 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JeUL6-0007pS-57; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:02:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <86d4ph67ql.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080326-0, 2008-03-26), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JeUL6-0007pS-57. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JeUL6-0007pS-57 bc108a69354e1cff431e19e5a95044a1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93525 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > That is because properties are not part of a function, but part of a > symbol. And a symbol has all of function cell, value cell, property > list and name. Those are disparate things. Storing information about > the function in the property list scatters the information and makes it > impossible to use the actual function rather than the referring symbol. Could you please tell when this is practically a problem? > But we are talking right now about _functions_. And it is a mistake to > consider the property list part of either variable or function: it has > different scopes and is independent from both variable or function. It has independent scope but is normally used for the variable or the function.