From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Resizing may delete windows Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: <47E9FFB2.5080604@gmx.at> References: <17986.1206513280@cs.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206521457 2868 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2008 08:50:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, "Jan D." , "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" To: Michael Kifer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 26 09:51:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JeRLx-0002Ik-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:51:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeRLM-0006iU-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:50:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeRJr-0005La-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeRJq-0005LA-V2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeRJq-0005L4-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeRJq-0006NQ-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JeRJq-000643-19 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeRJm-0006Lr-Sp for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeRJm-0006LL-Ac for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2008 07:49:09 -0000 Original-Received: from N823P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.46.213]) [62.47.46.213] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 26 Mar 2008 08:49:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18PZsdxGAwP0guocUNuOHXfJXUe9IkKsOgwwQLNfQ n/5gNesdrR3TR8 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <17986.1206513280@cs.sunysb.edu> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93506 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21695 Archived-At: > No, dedicated windows in frames that have other windows are too troublesome. > They often surprise the user. Yes, unfortunately. IIRC Stefan once wanted to introduce various degrees of dedicatedness ... > That little ediff window does not need to be dedicated, since nothing else > gets into it unless you try hard :-) > And if this happens then it is easy to recover. > > >>>Another problem is that Emacs doesn't record window sizes accross >>>(de-)maximizations. Hence in your ediff control panel example you'd >>>have to fix the window-height at 1 in order to handle re-maximization as >>>intended :-( > > But when you maximize then the little window does not get deleted - it just > gets bigger. It is better to resize a window than to completely delete it. The idea of my proposal was just to keep the height of the control panel fixed during frame size changes. Personally, I would prefer some soft fixedness here which would prevent a window from getting implicitly resized whenever the window layout changes.