From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:00:58 +0100 Message-ID: <47E9680A.9060602@gmail.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <874pavg45t.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080325205353.GA1641@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206478936 11991 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 21:02:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 22:02:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JeGI5-0006xQ-Cp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:02:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeGHU-0005Rf-AG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeGGi-0004ue-PL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeGGf-0004qI-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeGGe-0004q2-Um for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:01:13 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeGGe-0000qN-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:60135 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JeGGW-0001b4-4M; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:01:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <20080325205353.GA1641@muc.de> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080324-0, 2008-03-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JeGGW-0001b4-4M. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JeGGW-0001b4-4M e9ccfc0a73fcc3246b8ae4b74e88db8c X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93444 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I _do_ worry, and worry a lot, that newcomers > might never come to grok the delightful conceptual unity of the Emacs > mark - and that their use of it will thus forever be inefficient. Why not cross the bridge and try to invent a way to learn all us coming from the faraway cua land that and other secrets? Or is that beyond reality?