From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:42:10 +0100 Message-ID: <47E82032.7070607@gmail.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <001f01c88dee$b7d48430$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <47E81757.8090405@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206394985 26085 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2008 21:43:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: paul r Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 22:43:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JduRo-0004LU-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:43:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JduRD-0006Pk-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JduR8-0006O6-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JduR6-0006Mf-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JduR6-0006Mb-JT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JduR6-00071R-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:64117 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JduQm-0004g8-5C; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:42:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <47E81757.8090405@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080324-0, 2008-03-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JduQm-0004g8-5C. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JduQm-0004g8-5C 526e6225c5951178bfddd950436f2769 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93337 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > paul r wrote: >> I think emacs customization process is already fairly good. But many >> beginners will simply give up *before* even discovering M-x customize >> ... sad, but true at least for people I know. > > It you are on w32 chances are you may give up quite a lot of times since > it is IMO more complicated to get a useful Emacs there. That is one > reason I wrote the installation package for EmacsW32. I still think > Emacs on w32 should be distributed as an installation package for those > who wants a precompiled Emacs with the needed extra binaries (grep etc). Here is a fresh, just some minutes old, example of the difficulties from the emacs on windows list. I have seen many like this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I am trying to print from Emacs on windows XP. I am using Emacs 22.1.1. I am trying to use postscript print through ghostscript. The ghostscript version is 8.61. My .emacs is: ;; Setup Ghostscript 8.61 as the postscript printer (setenv "GS_LIB" "e:\\Tools\\gs\\gs8.61;e:\\Tools\\gs\\fonts") (setq ps-lpr-command "e:/Tools/gs/gs8.61/bin/gswin32c") (setq ps-lpr-switches '("-q" "-dNOPAUSE" "-dBATCH" "-sDEVICE=mswinpr2")) (setq ps-printer-name t) When I attempt to print there is no error message and no print – nothing. Ghostscript does seem to work – at least through ghostview. It is probably a simple erro, but I don’t see it. thanx" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<