From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: <47E81757.8090405@gmail.com> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324115510.GA1563@muc.de> <001f01c88dee$b7d48430$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206392793 17010 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2008 21:06:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: paul r Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 22:07:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jdts6-0006a7-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtrV-0005dA-8q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:05:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtqY-0004qY-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:04:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtqW-0004oZ-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JdtqW-0004oP-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JdtqV-0006gJ-Vh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:63865 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JdtqE-0000kA-5I; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:04:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080324-0, 2008-03-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JdtqE-0000kA-5I. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JdtqE-0000kA-5I 6611facaf9e1cd71a32cace477a442e0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93335 Archived-At: paul r wrote: > I think emacs customization process is already fairly good. But many > beginners will simply give up *before* even discovering M-x customize > ... sad, but true at least for people I know. It you are on w32 chances are you may give up quite a lot of times since it is IMO more complicated to get a useful Emacs there. That is one reason I wrote the installation package for EmacsW32. I still think Emacs on w32 should be distributed as an installation package for those who wants a precompiled Emacs with the needed extra binaries (grep etc).