From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:03:28 +0100 Message-ID: <47E430B0.4080408@gmail.com> References: <200803201508.m2KF8C0S002150@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <006301c88aa9$ffafda40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <200803201704.m2KH4HVt023198@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <47E37419.6080708@swipnet.se> <18404.11482.3867.697294@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206137041 761 80.91.229.12 (21 Mar 2008 22:04:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 21 23:04:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JcpLY-0002fO-Nl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:04:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JcpKy-0001YV-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JcpKt-0001YQ-WE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JcpKs-0001YE-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JcpKs-0001YB-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:03:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JcpKr-0003AY-MR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:03:38 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:65059 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JcpKq-0007Xy-6W; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:03:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <18404.11482.3867.697294@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080321-0, 2008-03-21), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JcpKq-0007Xy-6W. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JcpKq-0007Xy-6W a77ae065198c6669b6c57df442b6c28f X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93148 Archived-At: Nick Roberts wrote: > > But it is very annoying with all this new tool tips when you have > > tooltip-use-echo-area set to t. The minibuffer expands and shrinks for > > multiline tooltips just because you happen to pass the modeline with the > > pointer. > > Likewise, I went to a lot of trouble to get tooltips to work on the console > where they always appear in the mini-buffer (they don't currently work in > the mode-line but could be made to do so). > > > Is there a way to turn off modeline tooltips? I think that would be useful. > > Apparently they are meant to "help newbies" so it's ironic that they might > need to learn how to turn them off. > > At the risk of being disabused by Dan, I would suggest that these tooltips are > reverted to single line tips. Convert them to single line tips always when tooltip-use-echo-area is t perhaps?