From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift selection using interactive spec Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:48:17 +0100 Message-ID: <47DF73C1.4050704@gmx.at> References: <87k5k69p92.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200803140408.m2E47hPU014494@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87prtxpekk.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87abl11ilo.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874pb9koyw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9gzqv9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bq5gytbi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <8763vndi0r.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcf6ratt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878x0if9ul.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87od9e9gnx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873aqp5mzs.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <47DEEF89.2040602@gmx.at> <47DEF2AE.3080200@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205826595 4529 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2008 07:49:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , "Kim F. Storm" To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 18 08:50:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JbWaU-0007BA-Ei for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:50:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JbWZu-0001fP-Eg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JbWYr-00011y-II for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JbWYq-00010C-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JbWYp-000101-UD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JbWYp-0006tx-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 03:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2008 07:48:37 -0000 Original-Received: from N719P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.33.219]) [62.47.33.219] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2008 08:48:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18S6NMyeHkSoMlajM47OBLEmroVuU65TpJs4eFpCD TLs9eHfrgnMMGP User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <47DEF2AE.3080200@gmail.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92870 Archived-At: > What do you mean with "failed" here? Do you mean that the region is > changed or that it disappears (or something else) when you have come to 3? The highlighted region either changes along with point relocation - this happens with `transient-mark-mode' and C-SPC (or C-SPC C-SPC if you have tmm disabled) - or an operation gets applied to a different region than the highlighted one - this may happen with mouse-selection (and can be awfully confusing). > If you use C-space then the region does not disappear - as I guess you > know. But it changes in some arbitrary fashion when `point' gets relocated during scrolling. > BTW, here is a suggestion: > - If the region was not created with C-space (or something equivalent) > then C-space should not cance the region, but make it behave just as > C-space was used to create it. > > This could mitigate the problem that some commands (like scroll) > deactivates the mark. Why should scrolling deactivate the mark in the first place?