Re: FW: Minibuf menu when minibuffer is standalone

["Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>]

Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> For learning perhaps? Maybe not very useful for you though ... ;-)
> 
>> However looking at the Minibuff menu when doing C-x C-f in CVS Emacs 23
>> I see a little bit strangeness:
> 
>>   Minibuff
>>    Complete -- TAB
>>    Complete Word
>>    List Completions -- ?
>>    Previous History Item -- M-p
>>    Next History Item -- M-n
>>    Isearch History Backward -- C-r
>>    Isearch History Forward -- C-s
>>    Enter -- C-j
>>    Quit -- M-ESC ESC
> 
>> I would perhaps expect some to be different
> 
>>    Previous History Item -- up
>>    Next History Item -- down
>>    Quit -- C-g
> 
>> It seems like the choice of keybinding to show could be done better.
> 
> The Quit one looks bad indeed.  The other 2 are right: we want to show
> the bindings which work everywhere whenever possible, whereas `up' and
> `down' keys may not always be available.

It is a difficult choice what to choose, but I would prefer up/down for 
beginners. Are there really any cases where up/down are not available today?

>>    Enter -- C-j
> 
>> I do not understand that one at all.
> 
> That's not too good either, indeed, but I don't see it here (it just
> doesn't say anything at all for me).

Emacs 23.0.60.1, 2008-03-10.

But I can't understand why "Enter" should be in the menu. It is really 
not surprising that you press ENTER to enter the data, or is it? Of 
course I see a lot of people entering data in a web browser using the 
mouse to click the submit button, but I do not think anyone of them uses 
Emacs ...