Bug? Installing from git master

Bug? Installing from git master

[Sebastian]

Hallo list,

just pulled the current GIT repo and installed org-mode doing


sh# make
sh# make install


Now, when I try to

M-x org-publish-current-project

I get the message

Cannot open load file: org-irc

I can see that org-irc.el is in my repo but does not get installed (and
not compiled), while org-publish.el, obviously depending on org-irc does.


sh# ls -1 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org*
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org.elc
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-export-latex.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-export-latex.elc
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-install.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-install.elc
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mac-message.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mac-message.elc
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mouse.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mouse.elc
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-publish.el
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-publish.elc


Is this the intended behaviour?


BTW: an INSTALL file would be nice, describing the interesting make
targets with just a few words (or place a small section in the README).


** Another little bug:

sh# make doc
makeinfo --html --number-sections --no-split -o org.html org.texi
/home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5111: Next field of
node `Keyword search' not pointed to (perhaps incorrect sectioning?).
/home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5140: This node (Stuck
projects) has the bad Prev.
/home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5111: Prev field of
node `Keyword search' not pointed to.
/home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5090: This node
(Timeline) has the bad Next.
makeinfo: Removing output file `org.html' due to errors; use --force to
preserve.
make: *** [org.html] Error 1



No docs created.


** General question:

What goes into the master branch? What grade of stability can I expect
when using it? And what kinds of failures are you intersted in? Is there
some kind of file anywhere describing a timline for the development I
should read (in place of asking questions)?

I ask, because I am not shure, if you are interested in posts like this
one. I'm new to this list and every project has it's way of developing.
Some add code for some weeks and then from time to time do a freeze or
have special flag days for bug hunting and do a release then. Other
projects try to keep the master branch in a stable state and try to fix
issues in there as soon as possible.



Regards,

    Sebastian

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Carsten Dominik]

Pull again, this should work now.

- Carsten

On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Sebastian wrote:

> Hallo list,
>
> just pulled the current GIT repo and installed org-mode doing
>
>
> sh# make
> sh# make install
>
>
> Now, when I try to
>
> M-x org-publish-current-project
>
> I get the message
>
> Cannot open load file: org-irc
>
> I can see that org-irc.el is in my repo but does not get installed  
> (and
> not compiled), while org-publish.el, obviously depending on org-irc  
> does.
>
>
> sh# ls -1 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org*
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org.elc
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-export-latex.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-export-latex.elc
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-install.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-install.elc
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mac-message.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mac-message.elc
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mouse.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mouse.elc
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-publish.el
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-publish.elc
>
>
> Is this the intended behaviour?
>
>
> BTW: an INSTALL file would be nice, describing the interesting make
> targets with just a few words (or place a small section in the  
> README).
>
>
> ** Another little bug:
>
> sh# make doc
> makeinfo --html --number-sections --no-split -o org.html org.texi
> /home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5111: Next field of
> node `Keyword search' not pointed to (perhaps incorrect sectioning?).
> /home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5140: This node  
> (Stuck
> projects) has the bad Prev.
> /home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5111: Prev field of
> node `Keyword search' not pointed to.
> /home/sebastian/emacs/lisp/ext/org-mode//org.texi:5090: This node
> (Timeline) has the bad Next.
> makeinfo: Removing output file `org.html' due to errors; use --force  
> to
> preserve.
> make: *** [org.html] Error 1
>
>
>
> No docs created.
>
>
> ** General question:
>
> What goes into the master branch? What grade of stability can I expect
> when using it? And what kinds of failures are you intersted in? Is  
> there
> some kind of file anywhere describing a timline for the development I
> should read (in place of asking questions)?
>
> I ask, because I am not shure, if you are interested in posts like  
> this
> one. I'm new to this list and every project has it's way of  
> developing.
> Some add code for some weeks and then from time to time do a freeze or
> have special flag days for bug hunting and do a release then. Other
> projects try to keep the master branch in a stable state and try to  
> fix
> issues in there as soon as possible.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>    Sebastian
>
>
>
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Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Manish]

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> Pull again, this should work now.
>

  ,----
  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ git pull      <-- zms: second pull to show that
we are current
  | Already up-to-date.
  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ make
  | emacs -batch -q -eval "(progn (add-to-list (quote load-path)
\".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path)
\"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\"))" -f batch-byte-compile
org-irc.el
  |
  | In toplevel form:
  | org-irc.el:53:1:Error: Symbol's value as variable is void:
mouse-1-click-follows-link
  | make: *** [org-irc.elc] Error 1
  |
  `----

-- Manish

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Sebastian]

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> Pull again, this should work now.
>
> - Carsten

Still the same...
I'm cloning git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git
Is that correct?

Actually it is not realy a problem for me since I see that the only
target that fails seems to be the HTML docs (I prefer PDF anyway).

Regards, Sebastian

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Sebastian]

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> Pull again, this should work now.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Sebastian wrote:
>

Oups - you meant the export. YES that works now


Thanks, now I know why the branch is called 'master' ;)



The only old error when exporting is this one (must be something wrong
in my configuration):
org-publish-update-timestamp: Setting file times: datei oder Verzeichnis
nicht gefunden,
/home/sebastian/.org-timestamps/_home_sebastian_develop_htdocs_fairprinter-gmbh_87.230.101.100.doc_Konfiguration-bind.org.timestamp

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Carsten Dominik]

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten
On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Manish wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl 
> > wrote:
>> Pull again, this should work now.
>>
>
>  ,----
>  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ git pull      <-- zms: second pull to show that
> we are current
>  | Already up-to-date.
>  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ make
>  | emacs -batch -q -eval "(progn (add-to-list (quote load-path)
> \".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path)
> \"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\"))" -f batch-byte-compile
> org-irc.el
>  |
>  | In toplevel form:
>  | org-irc.el:53:1:Error: Symbol's value as variable is void:
> mouse-1-click-follows-link
>  | make: *** [org-irc.elc] Error 1
>  |
>  `----
>
> -- Manish

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Manish]

> On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Manish wrote:
>
>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl
>  > > wrote:
>  >> Pull again, this should work now.
>  >>
>  >
>  >  ,----
>  >  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ git pull      <-- zms: second pull to show that
>  > we are current
>  >  | Already up-to-date.
>  >  | ~/elisp/org-mode $ make
>  >  | emacs -batch -q -eval "(progn (add-to-list (quote load-path)
>  > \".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path)
>  > \"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\"))" -f batch-byte-compile
>  > org-irc.el
>  >  |
>  >  | In toplevel form:
>  >  | org-irc.el:53:1:Error: Symbol's value as variable is void:
>  > mouse-1-click-follows-link
>  >  | make: *** [org-irc.elc] Error 1
>  >  |
>  >  `----
>  >

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> Fixed, thanks.
>

`make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:

  ,----
  | <snipped compilation messages>
  |
  | In org-irc-erc-store-link:
  | org-irc.el:159:44:Warning: reference to free variable `erc-default-port'
  |
  | In org-irc-get-erc-link:
  | org-irc.el:166:23:Warning: reference to free variable
  |     `erc-server-announced-name'
  | org-irc.el:167:23:Warning: reference to free variable `erc-session-port'
  |
  | In org-irc-visit-erc:
  | org-irc.el:180:38:Warning: reference to free variable `erc-default-port'
  | org-irc.el:189:33:Warning: reference to free variable `erc-session-port'
  | org-irc.el:190:33:Warning: reference to free variable
  |     `erc-server-announced-name'
  | org-irc.el:212:64:Warning: reference to free variable `chan'
  |
  | In end of data:
  | org-irc.el:223:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to
be defined:
  |     erc-current-logfile, erc-prompt, erc-default-target, erc-channel-p,
  |     erc-buffer-filter, erc-server-buffer, find-if, find,
  |     erc-get-server-nickname-list, erc-cmd-JOIN
  | Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-irc.elc
  |
  | <snipped compilation messages>
  `----

-- Manish

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
> `make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:

Fixed, thanks!

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Manish]

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>  >
>
> > `make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:
>
>  Fixed, thanks!
>

Only following warnings are left now.

  ,----
  | In end of data:
  | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at
  |     runtime: find-if, find
  | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the function `erc-current-logfile' is not known to
  |     be defined.
  | Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-irc.elc
  `----

-- Manish

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
>> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>  >
>>
>> > `make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:
>>
>>  Fixed, thanks!
>
> Only following warnings are left now.
>
>   ,----
>   | In end of data:
>   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at
>   |     runtime: find-if, find
>   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the function `erc-current-logfile' is not known to
>   |     be defined.
>   | Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-irc.elc
>   `----

Argh. Fixed.

Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Manish]

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
>  >> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>  >>
>  >>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>  >>  >
>  >>
>  >> > `make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:
>  >>
>  >>  Fixed, thanks!
>  >
>  > Only following warnings are left now.
>  >
>  >   ,----
>  >   | In end of data:
>  >   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at
>  >   |     runtime: find-if, find
>  >   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the function `erc-current-logfile' is not known to
>  >   |     be defined.
>  >   | Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-irc.elc
>  >   `----
>
>  Argh. Fixed.
>
>  Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??
>

I do.

`make' completes cleanly now.  Thanks.

The intention was definitely not to bug (no pun intended) the
maintainers/contributors.  I just assumed it would be helpful.  Would
you prefer that these reports (regarding master branch) be provided
when explicitly requested (since master should be expected to be
somewhat `unstable')?

-- Manish

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:

>>  Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??
>
> The intention was definitely not to bug (no pun intended) the
> maintainers/contributors.  I just assumed it would be helpful.  

It was!  No worry on that.

> Would you prefer that these reports (regarding master branch) be
> provided when explicitly requested (since master should be expected to
> be somewhat `unstable')?

No -- provide them when you *want* and we will fix them when we *can*.

I guess I was just a bit wary because I was caught in the middle of some
half-baked fix :)

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bernt Hansen]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??

I do :)

-Bernt

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Adam Spiers]

On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 04:35:14AM +0530, Manish wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> > Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> >  >> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> >  >>
> >  >>  > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> >  >>  >
> >  >>
> >  >> > `make' now completes.  Though it still produces following warnings:
> >  >>
> >  >>  Fixed, thanks!
> >  >
> >  > Only following warnings are left now.
> >  >
> >  >   ,----
> >  >   | In end of data:
> >  >   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at
> >  >   |     runtime: find-if, find
> >  >   | org-irc.el:231:1:Warning: the function `erc-current-logfile' is not known to
> >  >   |     be defined.
> >  >   | Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-irc.elc
> >  >   `----
> >
> >  Argh. Fixed.
> >
> >  Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??

:-)

> I do.

Me too.

> `make' completes cleanly now.  Thanks.

... but only if you have erc installed (it's shipped with emacs 22 but
not emacs 21):

  $ make
  emacs -batch -q -eval "(progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path) \"/home/aspiers/lib/emacs/GNU_Emacs/21.3/gnu/linux/pre\"))" -f batch-byte-compile org-mouse.el
  Loading /usr/lib/emacs/21.3/i586-suse-linux/fns-21.3.1.el (source)...
  While compiling toplevel forms in file
  /home/aspiers/lib/emacs/major-modes/org-mode.git/org-mouse.el:
    !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "erc"))
  Done
  make: *** [org-mouse.elc] Error 1

This is because org-default-extensions defaults to (org-irc):

  emacs -batch -q -eval "(progn (setq debug-on-error t) (add-to-list (quote load-path) \".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path) \"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\") (require 'org))"
  Loading /usr/lib/emacs/21.3/i586-suse-linux/fns-21.3.1.el (source)...
  Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "erc")
    require(erc)
    eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "org-irc" nil t)
    load-with-code-conversion("/home/aspiers/lib/emacs/major-modes/org-mode.git/org-irc.el" "org-irc" nil t)
    require(org-irc)
    mapc(require (org-irc))
    org-load-default-extensions()
    run-hooks(org-load-hook)
    byte-code("��!���!�" [provide org run-hooks org-load-hook] 2)
    require(org)
    (progn (setq debug-on-error t) (add-to-list (quote load-path) ".") (add-to-list (quote load-path) "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp") (require (quote org)))
    eval((progn (setq debug-on-error t) (add-to-list (quote load-path) ".") (add-to-list (quote load-path) "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp") (require (quote org))))
    command-line-1(("-eval" "(progn (setq debug-on-error t) (add-to-list (quote load-path) \".\") (add-to-list (quote load-path) \"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\") (require 'org))"))
    command-line()
    normal-top-level()

So it would be nice if it didn't default to (org-irc) for older emacsen.

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien Guerry]

Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> writes:

>> >  Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??
>
> :-)
>
>> I do.
>
> Me too.
>
>> `make' completes cleanly now.  Thanks.
>
> ... but only if you have erc installed (it's shipped with emacs 22 but
> not emacs 21):
>
> This is because org-default-extensions defaults to (org-irc):
>
> So it would be nice if it didn't default to (org-irc) for older
> emacsen.

I'd rather not load any module by default.  As far as I understand it,
the purpose of having `org-default-extensions' is precisely to let new
users have a simple and clean default install, with a simple facility to 
get new modules loaded -- but only if they explicitely require so.

BTW, maybe the name of the feature "org-irc" is a bit misleading: since
it's really about erc, and since Emacs also comes with rcirc.el, it
should either be called org-erc.el or support links to rcirc.el.

Phil, what do you think?

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Carsten Dominik]

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On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Bastien Guerry wrote:

> Adam Spiers <orgmode@adamspiers.org> writes:
>
>>>> Is _everyone_ pulling from git in this room??
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>> I do.
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>>> `make' completes cleanly now.  Thanks.
>>
>> ... but only if you have erc installed (it's shipped with emacs 22  
>> but
>> not emacs 21):
>>
>> This is because org-default-extensions defaults to (org-irc):
>>
>> So it would be nice if it didn't default to (org-irc) for older
>> emacsen.
>
> I'd rather not load any module by default.  As far as I understand it,
> the purpose of having `org-default-extensions' is precisely to let new
> users have a simple and clean default install, with a simple  
> facility to
> get new modules loaded -- but only if they explicitely require so.

The idea of having default modules in this variables is this:
Eventually I would like to factor out ome parts of the current org.el
into there own files, in particular much of the link code can move to
such files.  However, I still want Org-mode to be feature-rich out of  
the
box, so I would load those factored-out modules from this variable,
plus offer optional modules for the user to select.

I did not realize that erc is not supported on all Emacs versions,
to we clearly need to cater for this.  Wither by taking it out
of that variable, of my making the require fail silently.
We could, for example, wrap the require into condition-case and only
pus out a message, not raise a signal.

- Carsten


>
>
> BTW, maybe the name of the feature "org-irc" is a bit misleading:  
> since
> it's really about erc, and since Emacs also comes with rcirc.el, it
> should either be called org-erc.el or support links to rcirc.el.
>
> Phil, what do you think?
>
> -- 
> Bastien


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Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Phil Jackson]

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

> On Mar 3, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Bastien Guerry wrote:

> I did not realize that erc is not supported on all Emacs versions, to
> we clearly need to cater for this.  Wither by taking it out of that
> variable, of my making the require fail silently.  We could, for
> example, wrap the require into condition-case and only pus out a
> message, not raise a signal.

I meant to pick up on this but I was really busy over the weekend. What
about each module having a defun, something like `org-irc-load-check'
where the 'load-check' function is autoloaded and run by org before the
require to do a check on features, on non-nil the module is required?

Cheers,
Phil
-- 
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Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Phil Jackson]

Bastien Guerry <Bastien.Guerry@ens.fr> writes:

> BTW, maybe the name of the feature "org-irc" is a bit misleading:
> since it's really about erc, and since Emacs also comes with rcirc.el,
> it should either be called org-erc.el or support links to rcirc.el.

It's somewhat extensible (through `org-irc-client') to support other IRC
clients (the link parsing is generic for instance).

Cheers,
Phil
-- 
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Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Sebastian <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes:

> The only old error when exporting is this one (must be something wrong
> in my configuration):
> org-publish-update-timestamp: Setting file times: datei oder Verzeichnis
> nicht gefunden,
> /home/sebastian/.org-timestamps/_home_sebastian_develop_htdocs_fairprinter-gmbh_87.230.101.100.doc_Konfiguration-bind.org.timestamp

This should be fixed right now in the git repo.

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Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

> I did not realize that erc is not supported on all Emacs versions,
> to we clearly need to cater for this.  Wither by taking it out
> of that variable, of my making the require fail silently.
> We could, for example, wrap the require into condition-case and only
> pus out a message, not raise a signal.

I have pushed a commit taking this later route.

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Bastien]

Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> writes:

> Bastien Guerry <Bastien.Guerry@ens.fr> writes:
>
>> BTW, maybe the name of the feature "org-irc" is a bit misleading:
>> since it's really about erc, and since Emacs also comes with rcirc.el,
>> it should either be called org-erc.el or support links to rcirc.el.
>
> It's somewhat extensible (through `org-irc-client') to support other IRC
> clients (the link parsing is generic for instance).

Good!  I did not realize that.

-- 
Bastien

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Phil Jackson]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> I did not realize that erc is not supported on all Emacs versions,
>> to we clearly need to cater for this.  Wither by taking it out
>> of that variable, of my making the require fail silently.
>> We could, for example, wrap the require into condition-case and only
>> pus out a message, not raise a signal.
>
> I have pushed a commit taking this later route.

Slow down... :)

As mentioned orc-irc is meant to be generic so it's still not quite
right. I sent an email to you and Carsten about having a loadablep (bad
name?)  function exposed by the module which would give it a chance to
do some requires and setting up too. Might be interesting to look at the
ERC code and check how they do it...

Here is my (rough) suggestion again:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
 (defun org-load-module (module-name)
   (let ((sym (intern (concat module-name "-loadablep"))))
     (if (fboundp sym)
         (when (funcall sym)
           (require (intern module-name)))
         (error "org modules must have a -loadablep defun."))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Cheers,
Phil
-- 
 Phil Jackson
 http://www.shellarchive.co.uk

Re: Bug? Installing from git master

[Sebastian]

Bastien schrieb:
> Sebastian <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes:
>
>   
>> The only old error when exporting is this one (must be something wrong
>> in my configuration):
>> org-publish-update-timestamp: Setting file times: datei oder Verzeichnis
>> nicht gefunden,
>> /home/sebastian/.org-timestamps/..._Konfiguration-bind.org.timestamp
>>     
>
> This should be fixed right now in the git repo.
>
>   

Yes -- Thanks a lot!

Regards,
    Sebastian


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