From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PATCH to add euro symbol to French-{postfix, alt-postfix, prefix} input methods Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:53:12 +0000 Message-ID: <47C9B428.5070606@gnu.org> References: <1203936672.22517.5.camel@Argo.Styx> <87k5ktuf7d.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mypo5x1e.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <1204070698.4334.39.camel@Argo.Styx> <878x14lw94.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ejawam2n.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <8563w6vipk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85y792u0fy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85ir06tx9d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204401233 15592 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2008 19:53:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nick.steeves@uleth.ca, miles@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 01 20:54:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JVXmZ-0001Ql-IL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:54:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVXm3-0008II-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVXly-0008IB-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVXly-0008Hz-3g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVXly-0008Hw-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JVXlj-0002Q2-OT; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:53:15 -0500 Original-X-Trace: 52376573/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAHJCyUdTQxds/2dsb2JhbAAIqj0 X-IP-Direction: OUT Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Mar 2008 19:53:14 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91001 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > All I was worried about was whether users do assume the current > latin-* input methods do not produce characters outside a single Latin > charset. If users from the European cultures don't mind, neither do > I. > If the input method is called "latin-1-prefix" (-postfix, -alt), then the user would expect it not to produce characters outside the latin-1 range. But for input methods called "french-prefix" etc, I think they would expect to be able to type all letters and symbols in common usage in French, which these days includes the euro symbol. European users have surely encountered the fact that the euro is not covered by the latin-1 character set by now, so if they want to save in latin-1 encoding, they will simply avoid it. The "latin-*" input methods already contain the euro, so there is precedent for including it.