From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; whitespace.el mishap Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: <47BBAB63.3010007@gnu.org> References: <47A93D3A.90308@gnu.org> <47AA7C97.2020505@gnu.org> <47B65876.7040009@ig.com.br> <87y79lvbxn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203481438 5278 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 04:23:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, mwd@cert.org, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 05:24:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRgVJ-0002NZ-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:24:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRgUo-0005gS-6k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRgUl-0005fu-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRgUi-0005cW-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRgUi-0005cM-Hs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRgUi-0000oQ-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRgUh-0008Ro-TQ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRgUf-0000nI-1C for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRgUe-0000mY-PZ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:23:40 -0500 Original-Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2545926pyb.1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:23:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=VfujPsISPW9xBITm7xZuccpIIDw4rVw0oSprFueARsU=; b=rhRKXqkEQki47LX722g9zKdSzL+oKgXUQs+x1qm0w/cHHSbeky2xpJPPPfGf3/F0tLUGMvIXZNl2Tyo2wJo0bbZhOOGNZKewCkhUaI0dH2tcPCXP8uYSMnkfQ2tx2uS5n6+bHYNgctV8sjN8/ZDRqJ8Sxg8H2tagHmH/LdPHHZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=uw/cqcbqUArOkE+lX3zhxe6UZn5gW8fQUyNsYoUa/Wi3gTaByrCvuGQb3JdkndBL2v799O5lWqL1RvU7hnuvtnBofKC6BaqxY+7o+zwZMHC8RuejW/M1bYIvhFAPJz2WTldeT14qlyOreRYNeecQ46er6uoq79gsGPeck7EYXc0= Original-Received: by 10.65.203.14 with SMTP id f14mr15298854qbq.29.1203481418525; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:23:38 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [68.116.169.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p4sm8420660qba.15.2008.02.19.20.23.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:23:37 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: <87y79lvbxn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89646 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21241 Archived-At: Miles Bader wrote: > Vinicius Jose Latorre writes: > >> Well, indeed the old whitespace-buffer had reported >> where the bogus whitespace had happened. >> >> Instead of reporting, the new whitespace-mode >> displays visually the bogus whitespace. >> >> Is it ok if the new whitespace-buffer is removed? >> >> Maybe a better alternative should be to create a >> whitespace-report command which reports like the old >> whitespace-buffer. >> > > My personal opinion is that the old whitespace mode was pretty wacky, > Miles, that's a matter of opinion, and this is your opinion. I just beg to differ, as do the 150-200 people who I wrote this for. > and had lots of unneeded features and features which didn't follow Emacs > conventions. It doesn't seem necessary to me to _exactly_ preserve the > No one stopped you from either filing bugs against it, or better still "fixing" it. That's pretty much all I have to state on this thread. > interface (maybe some def-obsolete-alias could be used in some case), > just keep those commands which were actually useful, and maybe try to > make them follow emacs conventions better. > > E.g., how about: > > + `suspicious-whitespace-mode' -- highlights only "suspicious" > whitespace, i.e., that which probably should be removed. This is > sort of like the old "whitespace-buffer" command, but implemented as > a proper mode, or like your "whitespace-mode", but only highlights > suspicious whitespace. [dunno about the term "suspicious", but you > know what I mean] > > + `cleanup-whitespace' -- removes suspicious whitespace [same > definition as suspicious-whitespace-mode] > > -Miles > >