* What Modern Cooperation Looks Like
@ 2008-01-13 9:54 Thomas Lord
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From: Thomas Lord @ 2008-01-13 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
In email, and then on another list, and then in email arising
from that other list, I was drawn into the discussion about the
development tools and practices of the Emacs project.
During none of that did I look back at the emacs-devel threads.
This was a side discussion, standing on its own, in relation
to a document about revision control that ESR is working on.
I found it to be a very unpleasant discussion and exited
fairly quickly. I did not, in the end, feel that my opinions
or participation had been treated respectfully (other than
by a friend who first suggested that I be asked to join the
conversation). I did not have the impression that my words
were being read particularly carefully by ESR. I presume
that he intended respect and tried to point out the problems,
but then they got immediately worse instead.
I was advised in that discussion, by ESR, to refrain from
getting too much into "politics" because I spoke about about
some political and economic factors that I think are relevant
to the questions I was posed.
I advised backing up from the project of advocating tools
to a project of seriously evaluating needs -- treating the
Emacs project as a "customer" rather than as a "problem" --
and this part of what I said seems to have gone all but ignored
(my friend being an exception).
I feel strongly that my character was improperly attacked
during this discussion, and in a public forum, and by at least
one person in a position to unduly influence public opinion
about me.
And then, after all of that, I sampled the emacs-devel threads
related to all of this and I saw something that filled me with
a sense of recognition. I think I have seen a similar social
dynamic arise in my own work on GNU Guile and then GNU
Arch.
It occurs to me, quite simply, that a cooperative and intellectually
sound approach to helping the Emacs project with tools expertise
would look nothing at all like the discussion on emacs-devel, or
the discussion on this other list. There is simply no good reason
for this kind of hand-waving, arm-twisting, flying accusations,
assaults on character, or incitement of strife. The technical issues
don't merit it.
-t
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