emacs ispell / flyspell

emacs ispell / flyspell

[Martin Jørgensen]

Hi,

I installed ispell under cygwin with practically no problems. Ispell now 
works when I type "M-x ispell". But there are 2 problems:

Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments, thereby 
avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar 
latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")? Is 
it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance inside 
\ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or \label{something_here_too}?

If yes: Please tell me how.


Q2) This is perhaps trivial, but whenever I write latex-documents, I 
would like to enable flyspell mode from the beginning without having to 
type M-x flyspell. I googled for a solution and found a reply from 1999:

----------
Try `M-x ispell-minor-mode RET'.  This will automatically spell each 
word as soon as you type SPC or RET.

Another possibility is the flyspell package (`M-x flyspell RET', I
think).  I don't know if it works with XEmacs.
-----------

But how do I put that into my .emacs, in relation to question 2?

This post is X-posted to comp.text.tex and gnu.emacs.help.


Regards,
Martin

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:24:17 +0100
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_J=F8rgensen?= <megafedt@hotmail.com>
> 
> Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments, thereby 
> avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar 
> latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")? Is 
> it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance inside 
> \ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or \label{something_here_too}?
> 
> If yes: Please tell me how.

The following advice is from the commentary of ispell.el:

  ;; Region skipping:
  ;;  Place new regular expression definitions of regions you prefer not to
  ;;  spell check in `ispell-skip-region-alist'.  Mode-dependent features can
  ;;  be added to latex by modifying `ispell-tex-skip-alists'.
  ;;  `ispell-message' contains some custom skipping code for e-mail messages.

Does this advice help you?

> Q2) This is perhaps trivial, but whenever I write latex-documents, I 
> would like to enable flyspell mode from the beginning without having to 
> type M-x flyspell.

You should enable flyspell from tex-mode-hook:

  (add-hook 'tex-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode)

Place the above line in your ~/.emacs.

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Martin Jørgensen]

Martin Jørgensen wrote:
> Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments, thereby 
> avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar 
> latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")? Is 
> it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance inside 
> \ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or \label{something_here_too}?
> 
> If yes: Please tell me how.
> 
> 
> Q2) This is perhaps trivial, but whenever I write latex-documents, I 
> would like to enable flyspell mode from the beginning without having to 
> type M-x flyspell. I googled for a solution and found a reply from 1999:
> 
> ----------
> Try `M-x ispell-minor-mode RET'.  This will automatically spell each 
> word as soon as you type SPC or RET.
> 
> Another possibility is the flyspell package (`M-x flyspell RET', I
> think).  I don't know if it works with XEmacs.
> -----------
> 
> But how do I put that into my .emacs, in relation to question 2?
> 
> This post is X-posted to comp.text.tex and gnu.emacs.help.

hmmm. No answer.

Where else can I post these 2 questions? I sometimes saw David Kastrup 
in here answering something clever on this kind of problems.

Is there an auctex user group, developers forum or similar place where I 
can ask whether or not I just have to live with this behaviour?


Aren't there many people here using emacs for making latex-documents?

To those people: What do you do, if you want to check for spelling 
errors (must say, that I've never been a big fan of spell checks anyway 
but I would like to have the opportunity of doing it elegantly from 
within emacs).


Regards,
Martin

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 01.01.2008 um 13:06 schrieb Martin Jørgensen:

> Aren't there many people here using emacs for making latex-documents?

Does it work to configure ispell to be aware of TeX? I.e.:

       (setq ispell-program-name "ispell")
;     (setq ispell-program-name "aspell")
;
;       Für Französisch:
;      (require 'ispell)
;      (defun ispell-get-otherchars ()
;        (replace-regexp-in-string "-" "" (ispell-get-decoded-string  
3)))
;
       (if (string= "aspell" ispell-program-name)
         (progn
;         (setq ispell-extra-args "--norm-form=comp --norm-required -- 
run-together")
;         (setq ispell-dictionary "en_GB-ise-w_accents")
           (setq ispell-dictionary "deutsch")
           (set-default 'ispell-local-dictionary ispell- 
dictionary);"deutsch"
           (add-hook 'TeX-language-en-hook (function (lambda ()  
(ispell-change-dictionary "british"))))
           (add-hook 'TeX-language-de-hook (function (lambda ()  
(ispell-change-dictionary ispell-dictionary))));"deutsch"
           (message "Alles für «a»spell")
           )
           (setq ispell-dictionary "german8")
           (add-hook 'TeX-language-en-hook (function (lambda ()  
(ispell-change-dictionary "british"))))
           (add-hook 'TeX-language-de-hook (function (lambda ()  
(ispell-change-dictionary "deutsch8"))))
           (message "Alles für »i«spell")
       )
         (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook (function (lambda () (setq ispell- 
extra-args '("-t")))))


There is also the variable ispell-skip-region-alist ... it looks  
promising!

--
Greetings

   Pete

Wasting time is an important part of living.

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:53:56 +0100
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> Does it work to configure ispell to be aware of TeX?

ispell already is aware of TeX out of the box.

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Marc Schwartz]

Martin Jørgensen <megafedt@hotmail.com> writes:

> Martin Jørgensen wrote:
>> Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments,
>> thereby avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar
>> latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")?
>> Is it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance
>> inside \ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or
>> \label{something_here_too}?
>>
>> If yes: Please tell me how.
>>
>>
>> Q2) This is perhaps trivial, but whenever I write latex-documents, I
>> would like to enable flyspell mode from the beginning without having
>> to type M-x flyspell. I googled for a solution and found a reply
>> from 1999:
>>
>> ----------
>> Try `M-x ispell-minor-mode RET'.  This will automatically spell each
>> word as soon as you type SPC or RET.
>>
>> Another possibility is the flyspell package (`M-x flyspell RET', I
>> think).  I don't know if it works with XEmacs.
>> -----------
>>
>> But how do I put that into my .emacs, in relation to question 2?
>>
>> This post is X-posted to comp.text.tex and gnu.emacs.help.
>
> hmmm. No answer.
>
> Where else can I post these 2 questions? I sometimes saw David Kastrup
> in here answering something clever on this kind of problems.
>
> Is there an auctex user group, developers forum or similar place where
> I can ask whether or not I just have to live with this behaviour?
>
>
> Aren't there many people here using emacs for making latex-documents?
>
> To those people: What do you do, if you want to check for spelling
> errors (must say, that I've never been a big fan of spell checks
> anyway but I would like to have the opportunity of doing it elegantly
> from within emacs).
>
>
> Regards,
> Martin

In my .emacs file I have the following to load flyspell for tex/text
documents at startup:

;; =============================================================
;; LOAD FLYSPELL ===============================================
;; =============================================================

;; Set flyspell mode on
(autoload 'flyspell-mode "flyspell" "On-the-fly spelling checker." t)
(add-hook 'tex-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode)
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode)


I don't disable flyspell for certain types of documents, including here
in GNUS. I am using emacs 23 built from cvs.

If language specific keywords show up as errors, I slowly add them to
the dictionary so that they can be checked and flagged if I have
typos. It helps with debugging code when subtle typos may not be noticed.

If I am entering character/string constants in code, I want those to be
checked as well. 

I am generally coding in R with ESS. I use Sweave which enables me to
create documents that combine R and LaTeX code in a single file. In many
cases, I am "computing on the language", so I want keywords to be
checked, since my R code will create and output LaTeX markup.

This does mean that there is a level of inconvenience in that I have to
take some time to add common words to the dictionary that are not
already present. But in time, that becomes less and less of an issue.

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Marc Schwartz wrote:
> Martin Jørgensen <megafedt@hotmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Martin Jørgensen wrote:
>>> Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments,
>>> thereby avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar
>>> latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")?
>>> Is it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance
>>> inside \ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or
>>> \label{something_here_too}?
>>>
>>> If yes: Please tell me how.

There is a tip here at spell checking:

   http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/NxmlMode

It says that you should do

   (add-to-list 'flyspell-prog-text-faces 'nxml-text-face)

Maybe something similar is possible in your case?

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:06:07 +0100
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_J=F8rgensen?= <megafedt@hotmail.com>
> 
> hmmm. No answer.

??? I replied on Dec 29th.  Don't you see my response in the news
group?

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Alan Ristow]

Martin Jørgensen wrote:
> Martin Jørgensen wrote:
>> Q1) Is it possible to avoid ispell entering latex environments, 
>> thereby avoiding errors such as on the word "subfigure" and similar 
>> latex-commands (there are *many errors* from these "special words")? 
>> Is it also possible to avoid getting spelling errors for instance 
>> inside \ref{THIS_IS_ON_PURPOSE_SPELLED_WRONG} or 
>> \label{something_here_too}?
>>
>> If yes: Please tell me how.
>>
>>
>> Q2) This is perhaps trivial, but whenever I write latex-documents, I 
>> would like to enable flyspell mode from the beginning without having 
>> to type M-x flyspell. I googled for a solution and found a reply from 
>> 1999:
>>
>> ----------
>> Try `M-x ispell-minor-mode RET'.  This will automatically spell each 
>> word as soon as you type SPC or RET.
>>
>> Another possibility is the flyspell package (`M-x flyspell RET', I
>> think).  I don't know if it works with XEmacs.
>> -----------
>>
>> But how do I put that into my .emacs, in relation to question 2?
>>
>> This post is X-posted to comp.text.tex and gnu.emacs.help.
> 
> hmmm. No answer.

I use Aspell, so I can't help with the first question, but here's what's 
in my .emacs to activate flyspell:

;; Setup Aspell and turn on flyspell mode
(setq-default ispell-program-name "aspell")
(setq-default ispell-extra-args '("--mode=tex"))
(setq-default ispell-extra-args '("--personal=custom_dict.rws"))
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode)

> Where else can I post these 2 questions? I sometimes saw David Kastrup 
> in here answering something clever on this kind of problems.
> 
> Is there an auctex user group, developers forum or similar place where I 
> can ask whether or not I just have to live with this behaviour?

You can access an auctex newgroup via gmane -- see gmane.org.

Alan

Re: emacs ispell / flyspell

[Martin Jørgensen]

Alan Ristow wrote:
> Martin Jørgensen wrote:
-snip-
> I use Aspell, so I can't help with the first question, but here's what's 
> in my .emacs to activate flyspell:
> 
> ;; Setup Aspell and turn on flyspell mode
> (setq-default ispell-program-name "aspell")
> (setq-default ispell-extra-args '("--mode=tex"))
> (setq-default ispell-extra-args '("--personal=custom_dict.rws"))
> (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'flyspell-mode)
> 
>> Where else can I post these 2 questions? I sometimes saw David Kastrup 
>> in here answering something clever on this kind of problems.
>>
>> Is there an auctex user group, developers forum or similar place where 
>> I can ask whether or not I just have to live with this behaviour?
> 
> You can access an auctex newgroup via gmane -- see gmane.org.

Ok, thanks to both of you... My linux doesn't boot right now, but I 
suppose I can get it to work now, however I think it's pretty ugly to 
add all these "non-english" words to the dictionary.

Really really ugly, IMO...

If there are spelling problems in the environments, latex labels (I cant 
add all of these as there is an infinity of them that changes each time 
I make a new document), commands etc, I know Latex and every other 
compiler will stop and let me know about the spelling error...


Regards,
Martin