From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs changed file's own user and file permission
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:37:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <475F6576.9050804@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ad823b9-4941-4883-8771-de43d50913de@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Xah Lee wrote:
> Unix-like systems (unixes and linuxes) file systems do not record file
> creation date. (this is one of the major fuckup in unixes, and is a
> fact few unix people knew, even senior unix sys admins. (I'm not sure
> what file system linuxes uses now, but is so up to 2004))
Apparently this is a fact that you don't know, either:
http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?p=79750
http://m0j0.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/unix-mtime-vs-ctime/
> The emacs's default behavior is especially bad for Macs, because once
> you edited some file, its file creation timestamp info is effectively
> destroyed (and become the time you saved it) This is devastating for
> those uninitiated. e.g. you started to use emacs, then after a month
> or so, when you one day wanted to know when was a particular file
> created, you realized that it's all gone.
Devastating!
> (this is one of the major damage unixes has done to the computing
> industry)
Uh, ok. If that's major damage to the computing industry, I'll
take it over the "innovation" of Microsoft -- even Apple had the
good sense to move to Unix.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-12 4:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-10 2:11 emacs changed file's own user and file permission cire
2007-12-10 4:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-10 18:42 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-10 23:07 ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-11 1:18 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-11 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-11 9:23 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.4854.1197346566.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-11 20:39 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-12 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.4906.1197432601.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-12 5:00 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <mailman.4861.1197365038.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-11 20:49 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-11 23:03 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.4897.1197414209.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-15 5:21 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-11 21:27 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-12-12 4:37 ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.4908.1197434250.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-12 5:42 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-12 16:59 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-12-12 18:26 ` Xah Lee
2007-12-14 14:44 ` Joel J. Adamson
2007-12-17 1:48 ` Sean Sieger
2007-12-12 5:43 ` Barry Margolin
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