From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:05:43 +0000 Message-ID: <475DD457.2000507@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197331582 14948 80.91.229.12 (11 Dec 2007 00:06:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , Emacs-Devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 01:06:30 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1sdg-0007xM-0m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:06:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1sdO-0005uR-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1sdK-0005rv-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:05:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1sdI-0005o6-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1sdI-0005nh-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:05:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1sdH-0002cv-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:05:55 -0500 Original-X-Trace: 64563/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/Freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAL9iXUdTQxds/2dsb2JhbAAI Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO [192.168.249.28]) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Dec 2007 00:05:54 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85007 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > `custom-file' has never been loaded automatically. Why propose that? What > problem would that solve? > It would solve a problem that does not exist until the default value for custom-file is changed. That problem is that a new user has no way of knowing, and nor should they, that they have to manually add a line to their .emacs to get their customizations loaded.