Re: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file'

["Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>]

Drew Adams wrote:
>>> `custom-file' would not be loaded automatically, but only
>>> when (where) the user requests via (load-file custom-file).
>> If you do not mean that custom-file should be loaded automatically then
>> I must have misunderstood you.
> 
> Yes, I think you did. I said that `custom-file' would be loaded explicitly:
> (load-file custom-file). Just as it is now. All I proposed was that any
> Customize stuff currently in `user-init-file' should be moved to
> `custom-file'.

If custom-file is not loaded by default then it makes it even more 
difficult for users so I think it have to be loaded by default.

If something has to be done before custom-file I would prefer a separate 
file, .pre-custom-emacs or something. The only thing I believe would 
have to go there is actually the name of custom-file (if the user wants 
to change it).

>> Though I can't remember that reason now. Maybe it had something
>> to do with the order of loading? Maybe it was some problem
>> with custom-set-variables from the beginning?
> 
> Maybe those maybe's don't help. What about the order of loading? With an
> explicit (load-file custom-file), you can have any order you like. What
> problem with custom-set-variables from the beginning?

It was probably me misunderstanding custom-set-variables from the 
beginning. I just do not remember at the moment.