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Decades ago I opted for "POP3" because "IMAP" (at >> least then) was unable to do things the way I wanted them done. > > Notmuch doesn't do much: it doesn't do any internet protocols. It's > basically just a database and a command-line tool for that. Other tools > are needed, like "fetchmail" or some IMAP synchronizing tool for getting > the mail, Notmuch for indexing and searching the mail files, Notmuch > Emacs (or other client) for user interface and mail sending (SMTP). > > Notmuch Emacs client can be configured to join the parts together but > user must write a "hook script" for getting the mail and putting the > files in the right place. The script could handle spam filtering, for > example. Mine uses "bogofilter" for spam and does some mail tagging like > adding "mute" or "follow" tags for mail I don't want or want to see. I want to add that Notmuch much doesn't do pop but using either a POP3 synchronizing client or a client synchronizes against IMAP will pretty much keep your POP3 centered workflow. However if you also use IMAP it gets messy or at least conflicts with the server centered workflow as Notmuch only indexes emails from a file system and not against an IMAP server. Regarding what then not Notmuch gui does do or not: most Emacs mail clients use message-mode to send messages and/or use Gnus article viewer to view mails. So no mater what solution you choose so parts of your workflow won't change. A big plus is also the Notmuch indexer an external program that doesn't block Emacs's thread, some that for example Gnus does even if usually only a second or two. You can also use Notmuch with Gnus to search emails, I don't know how much else you can use the Notmuch indexer with Gnus, others have done that too. Read: (info "(gnus) Search Engines")