From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: invisible Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:02:06 +0100 Message-ID: <474A7D7E.20504@gmx.at> References: <20040225.150142.12214540.kazu@iijlab.net> <200402282128.i1SLSuY15359@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200402290224.i1T2Oip15705@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87sl3fdqs3.fsf@escher.local.home> <87zlxc5r2f.fsf@escher.local.home> <474059CD.1060107@gmx.at> <87r6ihi1z7.fsf@escher.local.home> <4746E2CF.4010604@gmx.at> <87k5o8q0y5.fsf@escher.local.home> <4747312D.7020605@gmx.at> <87fxywpuuy.fsf@escher.local.home> <47474B8C.9020806@gmx.at> <87bq9kpnqd.fsf@escher.local.home> <4747EFE8.5090405@gmx.at> <87k5o7mnhw.fsf@escher.local.home> <4748A52C.6090407@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196065823 1705 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2007 08:30:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Stephen Berman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 26 09:30:31 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IwZMH-0002cw-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:30:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwZM2-00029o-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:30:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwZLy-00029d-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwZLx-000298-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwZLx-000295-8O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IwZLw-0002ZC-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:30:04 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Nov 2007 08:03:23 -0000 Original-Received: from N846P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.49.172]) [62.47.49.172] by mail.gmx.net (mp047) with SMTP; 26 Nov 2007 09:03:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vL9YwZiwvryGa+I+0YLKY03AfYVPV3qbhzDmqhO +4+IQJpsdfWaTu User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84130 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20366 Archived-At: >>>Do you think facemenu-set-invisible should set rear-nonsticky to t? >> >>Probably. > > > I don't think it would be significiantly better. Since the text is > invisible, the user has generally no way to know whether she's inserting > text before or after the invisible text anyway. I think Stephen was talking about invisible text followed by visible text where the user (1) wants to insert text precisely at the beginning of the visible text and (2) probably wants to see new text while typing.