From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rick Moynihan Subject: Re: FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:08:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4715D11F.4060903@calicojack.co.uk> References: <20071016141902.GB3018@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <4714E142.2020805@calicojack.co.uk> <20071016162258.GD3018@atlantic.linksys.moosehall> <31bb7adf294a7376468be556e699bb6b@science.uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ii4to-0006dt-K8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ii4tn-0006dD-Jg for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:08 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ii4tn-0006d1-C1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:07 -0400 Received: from storm.bpweb.net ([83.223.106.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ii4tm-0006V0-WF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <31bb7adf294a7376468be556e699bb6b@science.uva.nl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Oct 16, 2007, at 18:22, Adam Spiers wrote: > >> Rick Moynihan (rick@calicojack.co.uk) wrote: >>> Adam Spiers wrote: >>> This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me today >>> (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list indicators. >>> >>> e.g. >>> >>> - foo >>> - bar >>> - baz |<-- Point > > This cammand does exist, it is `C-c -'. Excellent. I'd forgotten there were so many list types/styles though, it seems that this might be better on some kind of cycle (like the priority cookies). I don't know what key binding you could use though. Could holding CTRL and using the arrows up/down work? > > When you are in a list, M-RET makes the next list item, C-u M-RET makes > the next section, and C-RET does the same - even if for different > reasons. > > In what sense does M-RET not DWYM? Speaking for myself I think the issue is that M-RET is a common habit for creating a series of either list-items or outlines. The problem arises when you are under an outline and press M-RET it creates a new outline, when you really wanted to start a list. Hence having a convenient toggle here to turn an outline to a list/vice-versa might be handy. Perhaps the C-c - binding (or perhaps a cyclical one) could be used to include the current outline level in the cycle. This binding would then also obviously be applicable on outlines, allowing them to be converted from outline to list. Do these ideas make sense? R.