From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mouse-autoselect-window raises frames
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:15:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <470E682F.7090007@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv3awhg47g.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> The way I've usually heard "embarrassing" used, is to mean "something of
> which you're ashamed". I guess you use it here more like "annoying"?
Yes (although you were probably ashamed of the way Emacs behaves due to
my changes).
>>(note that `x-focus-frame' is not available on Windows installs)
>
>
> Are you saying that under w32, you used select-frame + raise-frame (the
> only thing select-frame-set-input-focus does in this case) as a substitute
> for x-focus-frame?
Emacs 22 uses `w32-focus-frame' but I think Jason has changed that for
Emacs 23. The doc-string is
w32-focus-frame is a built-in function in `src/w32fns.c'.
(w32-focus-frame frame)
Give frame input focus, raising to foreground if necessary.
Hence, the Windows substitute for `x-focus-frame' and
`select-frame-set-input-focus' both raise the frame.
> I do want mouse autoselection. And changing focus-follows-mouse has no
> effect w.r.t this problem.
`focus-follows-mouse' nil should inhibit selecting and subsequently
raising another frame. If it doesn't it's a bug.
> The problem is very simple: select-window events
> (currently) are only generated by mouse movement and Emacs should *never*
> call raise-frame in response to a mouse-movement (except when asked very
> specifically, such as when the frame is marked auto-raise).
The problem is that mouse movement also generates a switch-frame event
which is equally disturbing. But I'm already convinced that there's no
reason to either focus or raise the frame in `handle-select-window'.
> If the window-manager wants to raise the window in order to give it focus,
> that's "OK" (it would piss me off, but that's why I don't use such a window
> manager). But it's not OK for Emacs to do that.
An auto-raise window-manager doesn't raise the window in order to give
it focus but simply in order to avoid changing the position of `point'
(as you would do with a mouse click) when you want to switch to a
specific window with the mouse.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-11 18:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-10 18:41 mouse-autoselect-window raises frames Stefan Monnier
2007-10-10 20:44 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-11 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 8:49 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-11 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 13:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-11 18:15 ` martin rudalics [this message]
2007-10-11 20:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 21:12 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-12 1:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 21:44 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-11 12:32 ` martin rudalics
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