From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:11:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A616A2.8040504@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36CC139D-16DC-4D8E-B69A-D16BD3CE385E@mx6.tiki.ne.jp>
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> I am already a member of the translation effort to French (along with
> other localization projects) but I find translating the manual of a non
> localized application a waste of time in general, especially in the case
> of emacs where _most_ of the important stuff _cannot_ currently be
> localized
Some comments:
There are a couple of things to translate:
- manuals
- help texts
- menus
- interactive commands
* Translating manuals is a big job of course, but straight forward.
* The help texts (shown in the help buffer) are the documentation that
are written together with the functions and variables etc, like this:
(defun find-library (library)
"Find the elisp source of LIBRARY."
;; body of function comes here
When this texts are shown in the help buffer they could of course be
replaced with other texts from some table. Rather straight forward too
since not very much need to be changed in Emacs. (The English
documentation should of course just stay where it is. Otherwise it would
be a nightmare to program.)
* menu texts? Ah, I would not even dream of translating them until menus
are defined in a more simple manner.
* I believe you agree with me that they should not be translated.
Translating them would IMO lead to confusion.
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2007-07-23 12:03 Why emacs have not native language menu lu
2007-07-23 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23 22:42 ` lu
2007-07-24 0:17 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 0:36 ` Nick Roberts
2007-07-24 1:00 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 8:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
[not found] ` <mailman.3832.1185238836.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:48 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 11:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:23 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3854.1185275992.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 11:35 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-07-24 12:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:50 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3880.1185290519.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 18:51 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25 20:00 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals (was: Emacs localization ...) Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 3:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 4:42 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-07-26 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 11:45 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 10:05 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469\x04A@Web.DE>
[not found] ` <mailman.3855.1185276075.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:40 ` William Case
2007-07-24 15:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3874.1185289573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 5:53 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.3866.1185285646.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 14:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3873.1185289068.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 5:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 6:44 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 6:55 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 10:38 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 16:47 ` William Case
[not found] ` <mailman.3973.1185382240.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 9:36 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 11:15 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 12:01 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 13:06 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 13:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-26 4:16 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 12:28 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-25 12:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
[not found] ` <mailman.3943.1185346523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:51 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 12:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3957.1185365137.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 12:31 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3850.1185275133.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 15:25 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:52 ` William Case
2007-07-24 16:29 ` Why emacs have not native language menu -- TYPO William Case
2007-07-24 18:40 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3826.1185230563.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 3:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-24 11:29 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 12:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:39 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3860.1185279523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:48 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:10 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:19 ` Hadron
2007-07-25 21:56 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-26 13:36 ` Hadron
2007-07-26 15:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 0:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 13:32 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.4046.1185495843.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 12:00 ` Hadron
2007-07-27 15:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.4017.1185462177.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:31 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 21:01 ` ryofurue
2007-07-26 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 15:03 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-26 16:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.4022.1185465812.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 16:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.4016.1185461692.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 17:57 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-27 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 20:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-28 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 15:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3872.1185289026.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 15:57 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 21:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 10:42 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:07 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:09 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 0:48 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25 5:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-25 8:11 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3947.1185351202.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:19 ` Ilya Zakharevich
[not found] ` <200707251019.l6PAJ3Zu021410@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
2007-07-25 12:22 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3958.1185366162.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 20:25 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25 20:34 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3810.1185219229.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:53 ` David Hansen
2007-07-24 12:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3853.1185275573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:45 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:12 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:31 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 8:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 19:35 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 11:33 ` Hadron
2007-07-26 14:20 ` David Hansen
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