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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>,
	Thomas Arendsen Hein <thomas@intevation.de>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: set-locale-environement: strange default detection
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:04:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469DF3CA.4040704@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ps2qm1de.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>

David Kastrup skrev:
> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
> 
>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
>>>> a friend of mine (unfortunately a vim user, but a nice guy otherwise),
>>>> tried emacs on Gnu/Linux and was surprised that `C-h t' presented him
>>>> the German version of the tutorial.
>> [...]
>>> The problem is that we don't have finegrained support.  For the
>>> purpose of talking to the user, LC_MESSAGES is relevant.  But Emacs so
>>> rarely has the opportunity to talk anything but English to the user
>>> that we simply have no reasonable interface into this for now.
>> So maybe we should check for LANG, LC_ALL and maybe LC_MESSAGES in
>> tutorial.el itself.
> 
> Possibly.  I am not sure whether environment variables tell the whole
> story, and in a readable way (there are locale system calls, too), but
> they would probably cover 90% of the cases.
> 

The locale man page says the order should be LC_ALL, LC_MESSAGES, LANG:

       1.     If there is a non-null environment variable LC_ALL, the value of
              LC_ALL is used.

       2.     If an environment variable with the same name as one of the cat‐
              egories above exists and is non-null, its value is used for that
              category.

       3.     If there is a non-null environment variable LANG, the  value  of
              LANG is used.



	Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-18 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-18 10:14 set-locale-environement: strange default detection Sascha Wilde
2007-07-18 10:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 10:40   ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-18 10:50     ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 11:04       ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2007-07-18 12:28       ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-18 18:54 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-18 21:24   ` David Kastrup
2007-07-19  8:21     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-19  9:16       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-22 14:59         ` Better language detection for tutorial (was: set-locale-environement: strange default detection) Sascha Wilde
2007-07-22 15:41           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-22 15:44             ` Better language detection for tutorial David Kastrup
2007-07-22 23:16               ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-22 20:20             ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-23  3:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23  9:25                 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-23 19:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23 20:29                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-23 20:38                       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-24  6:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24  7:17                         ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-24  7:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24  7:53                             ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-24 18:45                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25  1:01                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-25  3:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25  4:48                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-25 19:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26  2:29                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-26 11:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 12:19                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-26 12:25                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 12:54                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-20 17:42     ` set-locale-environement: strange default detection Reiner Steib

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