From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hacksaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <467EA74B.1010603@hacksaw.org> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <467BFAAB.8060601@gnu.org> <851wg3chsm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <467D78BF.6020405@hacksaw.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182705502 12938 80.91.229.12 (24 Jun 2007 17:18:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, jasonr@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 24 19:18:19 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I2Vj6-00062O-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:18:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Vj5-0007Mn-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Vj1-0007Lv-7x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Viz-0007Lj-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I2Viz-0007Lg-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from hacksaw.org ([66.92.70.107]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I2Vix-0008Ur-Rs; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from inchworm.local ([10.0.0.243]) by hacksaw.org (8.13.6/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l5OHI5uk008302; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:18:05 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Macintosh/20070604) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73762 Archived-At: Sascha Wilde wrote: > Hacksaw wrote: > >> My preference would be for scratch to actually save everything. Don't >> treat it like mere workspace to be tossed when you figure something >> out, treat it as a fairly limitless notebook in which you can record >> your ideas, try out things, and hopefully never lose anything you >> didn't explicitly erase. I would make it autosave fairly often, like >> after an eval, as well as after 250 characters, and such >> > [...] > > If I understand your idea right, that would mean making no changes to > the semantics of *scratch* at all, with the one exception of > preserving the content of *scratch* between Emacs sessions? > > I like that idea very much! > You have it right. :-) > And I think it should make everybody happy: those who are worried, > that they might write something important in *scratch* and exit Emacs > without saving could simply restart Emacs again without having lost > anything -- and people like me could keep using *scratch* like they > are used to, without being annoyed by questions about saving changed > content of *scratch*. The only change for folks like me would be, > that they would want to discard the content of *scratch* from time to > time, but C-x h C-w isn't that hard to type... (or it could be > arranged in .emacs for those, who want the exact current behavior > back). > Right, and even if people are surprised by the new behavior, it doesn't cause them loss.