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From: Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti <ivan.cibrario@polito.it>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
Cc: 23875@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23875: 25.0.95; Emacs crashes when closing a frame on OSX
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:24:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4678D0F5-9492-46BA-9CDE-62ED15C19FDD@polito.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bmzu5mgs.fsf@breton.holly.idiocy.org>


> On 11 Sep 2016, at 20:18, Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> wrote:
> 
> Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti <ivan.cibrario@polito.it> writes:
> 
>> unfortunately, no. I am still using Emacs with NSTRACE_ENABLED and
>> NSZombiesEnabled=YES, plus some extra debugging printouts of my own,
>> related to allocation and deallocation of EmacsImages. However, I
>> cannot trigger the bug anymore. In my opinion, there are two possible
>> reasons for this:
>> 
>> - triggering the bug was related to “something special” I was doing
>>  with Emacs at that time (somewhat unlikely), or
>> 
>> - it is a timing-dependent bug and the debugging printouts steered
>>  Emacs away from it (perhaps more likely)
>> 
>> At this time I seldom see EmacsImage allocations/deallocations in the
>> Emacs trace if at all. It seems to me that most of them are allocated
>> before dumping (like fringe bitmaps in bimgs, ns_draw_fringe_bitmap,
>> nsterm.m) and never deallocated.
>> 
>> I would like to force Emacs to make heavier use of EmacsImages and
>> increase the probability of running into the bug again, but I don’t
>> know the code base well enough for that.
>> 
>> If you know of any way of attaining that, please let me know and I
>> will give it a try.
> 
> I'm afraid I don't know any way of doing that. I guess you could just
> try loading and deleting images repeatedly:
> 
> (dotimes (i 10)
>  (let ((image (find-image '((:type xpm :file "delete.xpm")))))
>    (insert (propertize " " 'display `(,image (slice .0 .0 1.0 1.0)))))
>  (redisplay)
>  (delete-backward-char 1))
> 
> That should display a bin icon ten times quickly, but I don't know if
> it'll dealloc it each time or if it gets cached in some way.

Thank you, I tried something very similar in the past and it works perfectly.
In the trace I see a single instance of [EmacsImage initForXPMWithDepth:::],
so I guess the image gets cached.


> Since you're the only person to report this so far I'd be inclined to
> think that perhaps some part of your configuration is causing it. Would
> it be possible for you to turn off the debug output and try
> systematically disabling different parts of your configuration to see if
> the crashes go away? That could perhaps help us narrow down what code is
> causing the crash.

I agree, it makes a lot of sense, indeed.  I will definitely try to tweak
my configuration to the extent I can.

Concerning the way of using Emacs, may I ask if there is any “grey area”
in using Emacs in native full screen mode?

When I saw the bug, I was switching in and out of full screen mode quite
often.  One thing I noticed is that the bug appeared during or shortly
after a switch.

I don’t see how it can be related to EmacsImages, but it is
the most significant clue I can think of at this time.

Thank you so much again for your time and for the hints.  Sorry for not
being of much help.

Best regards,
Ivan






  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-11 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 17:06 bug#23875: 25.0.95; Emacs crashes when closing a frame on OSX Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti
2016-06-30 18:50 ` Alan Third
2016-06-30 19:34   ` Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti
2016-09-11 10:15     ` Alan Third
2016-09-11 15:31       ` Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti
2016-09-11 18:18         ` Alan Third
2016-09-11 19:24           ` Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti [this message]
2016-09-12 12:58             ` Alan Third
2016-09-12 14:04               ` Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti
2016-09-12 16:52                 ` Alan Third
2016-09-26 12:48                   ` Ivan Cibrario Bertolotti
2016-11-11 19:14                     ` Alan Third

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