From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4672E148.8090908@gnu.org> References: <002201c7ae61$5d13fc00$d10990d4@j4f3n1> <87lkemki35.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <00b701c7aea8$72403de0$4a42fe91@j4f3n1> <013001c7af43$0627f4e0$560690d4@j4f3n1> <4672B6C7.3040509@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181933907 19248 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2007 18:58:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: grischka , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 15 20:58:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzH04-0003iF-7B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:58:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzH03-0000E3-Nx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzH01-0000Dw-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGzz-0000Di-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzGzz-0000Df-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:19 -0400 Original-Received: from www.janestcapital.com ([66.155.124.107] helo=smtp.janestcapital.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzGzy-0000DX-HW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [172.25.131.105] [38.96.172.125] by janestcapital.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.10) id A1570454; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:58:31 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 X-detected-kernel: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72985 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I originally thought it was lack of imagination, but given that they reject >>> requests to lift the restriction by arguing that "this is not supported by >>> our metaphor", it's pretty clear that it's ideological. > >> Emacs is their major customer (arguably the most important one, >> definitely one of the 10 most important ones). > > You clearly don't live in the same world as they do. Then they live in a dream world and we should wake them up. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGcuFIPp1Qsf2qnMcRAltYAJ9S495Uu5fBH0AIjt6D4W3pw5HTfwCfRzTl UzPj6q8OqsnXPwTzXaHKEpE= =yfYY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----