From: "Davis Herring" <herring@lanl.gov>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:33:14 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46605.128.165.123.18.1190658794.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACKEBDCDAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>
> How so? Perhaps it depends on the wheeled mouse, but I've never had any
> difficulty using the wheel as `mouse-2'. No doubt you have the same
> problem yanking with the mouse? Or perhaps you don't yank with the mouse
> either?
The wheel is smaller than the (other) buttons, and takes some care to get
just a mouse-2 and not a wheel-scroll then mouse-2 (which would paste
somewhere else!). I don't yank much with the mouse (I can after all have
C-y ready with one hand while the other just uses mouse-1), but I can; I'm
not saying that wheels are impossible to use as buttons, just harder.
(They might very well be unusable for someone who had impaired fine motor
control.)
> Fair enough. Consider people who do use a mouse to set point, particularly
> those who have a click-to-focus window manager and who use multiple
> frames.
It's not all that different: I use click-to-focus (largely because I
sometimes like to shove the mouse out of the way), and at the moment I
have a whole two Emacs frames open on each of two machines. And, as I
said, I do sometimes use the mouse to set point; it's just that that
rarity combined with the rarity of wanting to set point in, say, *Help* in
the first place that makes the whole thing a non-issue for me.
> Perhaps using `mouse-1' to follow links is less annoying for folks who
> don't use the mouse to set point ;-). I am curious, though, why you use a
> mouse to follow links but not to set point.
Because I typically want to edit (with the keyboard) after I set point,
and not after I click a link (which corresponds to "browing" Help or Info
or code, rather than editing same). Links are often in other windows
and/or are one of many similar choices, and I find them to be best
selected with a pointer.
> Wrt wanting to set point in a link - I don't think that is so much the
> question as wanting to set point (or just establish focus) and
> accidentally landing on a link.
My links are underlined, and my text in general is not, so I don't find
myself unsure what will happen if I click; I also automatically click in
the blank space of a window to select it (to avoid activating anything in
it), although this sometimes means that I need to go back to where I was!
> The place where I'm bitten most often (when I use emacs -Q) is clicking a
> file name in Dired to then do something with that file. Drives me nuts
> that it opens the file. (But I'm sure that, like Stefan, with time and
> patience I could get in the habit of avoiding this annoyance much of the
> time.)
I always use C-s ... RET RET in that case. But at this point we're just
comparing usage patterns of two Emacs users, so if we are to continue we
might as well take a real survey on the subject.
Davis
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-24 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-24 17:10 generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window Davis Herring
2007-09-24 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:33 ` Davis Herring [this message]
2007-09-24 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 19:27 ` David Kastrup
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-09-23 9:47 generate 1) virtual index and 2) other pages for Info; " Drew Adams
2007-09-23 12:00 ` generate " Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-23 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 0:20 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24 2:01 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-27 21:21 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-27 21:34 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-27 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-27 21:41 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-27 21:53 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 19:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-28 19:33 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 22:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30 2:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30 8:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30 23:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30 23:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-01 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-29 22:41 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-30 2:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-30 2:18 ` Drew Adams
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