From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 19:42:21 +0200 Message-ID: <463B707D.9070204@gmail.com> References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178300561 19885 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 17:42:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:42:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 19:42:38 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk1ng-0005gW-T2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:42:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk1uL-00031F-Ax for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:49:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk1u6-0002vL-Hl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk1u5-0002pS-2O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk1u4-0002ob-Se for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk1nP-0004Ky-Ip for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:42:19 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-24.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.24]:62787 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk1nN-0002Qx-4r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:42:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000738-2, 2007-05-04), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Hk1nN-0002Qx-4r. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Hk1nN-0002Qx-4r 2c2c3665d8d8ab505ce3d6fd10be7fa4 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43682 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On 5/4/07, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> (He might be better off choosing a less radical word than >> ``destructive'', but then he's not a native English speaker, so we all >> might cut him some slack.) > > I should've said "not productive", but I was mimicking the use of > "destructive" in one of Lennart's answers to you. > >> In this case, Lennart's attitude to put into his distribution every >> patch he finds useful, but cannot convince the Emacs developers to >> accept, is IMO not the best use of that freedom. It is confusing to >> users who expect Emacs to behave as documented and to do that >> consistently on all platforms. And it's an attitude that smells of >> schism and forking, which many of us will not approve, because it >> diminishes the already small group of active developers by spreading >> their insufficient resources between several competing projects. > > You've nicely summarized the main points of the discussion. Thanks. For those interested here is a list of what patches there are in the patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32: file:///C:/EmacsW32/etc/EmacsW32.html#patchcont