From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gordon Beaton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: 02 May 2007 10:47:14 GMT Organization: - Message-ID: <46386c32$0$31551$8404b019@news.wineasy.se> References: <5AFAECBD-683A-4F1D-83B5-6D187F54D05C@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178109743 24163 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2007 12:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:42:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 14:42:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjEA1-00068t-Ns for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 14:42:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjEGQ-0002X7-Pt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 08:48:58 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!news.song.fi!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Linux) Original-Lines: 17 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: cube.smaltan.org Original-X-Trace: 1178102834 news.wineasy.se 31551 195.42.215.17:63475 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@tdcsong.se Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147879 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:47:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43482 Archived-At: On Wed, 2 May 2007 12:12:10 -0400, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > More seriously: in some 1950 books I readed about blackening out with > a pencil the place where a hole should have been. The blackening could > be rubbedo out. This made sense where a punched card was a "record" > with columns (or groups of or even part of) being "fields". > > Graphite could be later sensed and use to drive the final punching... When I was in school in the mid-1970's we had an HP 9830A that we programmed using 80-column cards marked with a pencil, i.e. no holes at all. I didn't start using emacs until 1988 though, on TOPS-20. /gordon --