From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: when emacs 22.1 release will ready? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:23:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4635C39F.9050502@gmail.com> References: <259495020704291337s35dd584fi3b7ef1dd511b11d4@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177928628 10366 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2007 10:23:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 30 12:23:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HiT2k-0001Mq-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:23:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiT8u-0004qX-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiT8n-0004pN-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:29:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiT8m-0004ob-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:29:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiT8l-0004oU-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HiT2a-0002iQ-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:23:32 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-24.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.24]:64987 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HiT2Y-00018w-7I; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:23:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000737-0, 2007-04-30), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HiT2Y-00018w-7I. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1HiT2Y-00018w-7I 396cc5a50aaecb4e3aa867d3fb479c0e X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70404 Archived-At: Leo wrote: > Long term release hurts every project. The huge success of the kernel > again shows the only thing to make RMS change is to do something better > than him like what XEmacs did in the past and what Ubuntu did to Debian. Is not one of the things behind the Ubuntu success that it is financially backed up by someone with both resources and a kind interest in the project? I do not know very much about Xemacs, but since I think that lack of resources is crucial here I think that things would have been much better without that split.