From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: when emacs 22.1 release will ready? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:53:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4635BCB6.9060108@gmail.com> References: <259495020704291337s35dd584fi3b7ef1dd511b11d4@mail.gmail.com> <4635B7F9.8090909@gmail.com> <4635B8F8.9020309@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177926850 4634 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2007 09:54:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alex Ott , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 30 11:54:08 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HiSa8-0007Y5-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:54:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiSgI-0000AD-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiSgF-00007O-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:00:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HiSgE-00005d-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:00:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HiSgD-00005M-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:00:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HiSa0-0007U0-Px; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-24.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.24]:64829 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HiSZy-0007TF-3X; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:53:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <4635B8F8.9020309@gnu.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000737-0, 2007-04-30), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HiSZy-0007TF-3X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HiSZy-0007TF-3X 264b63a97b580d7a4ad708c29d67e6f5 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70399 Archived-At: Jason Rumney wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> What do they do to keep control over the quality? I guess they are >> using a lot of unit testing for the kernel, or? > > The quality of Emacs hasn't changed considerably over the past 3 years. > What would change it is to do a proper pretest cycle where only > regressions are fixed with the aim of reaching zero code changes after a > few pretest releases and releasing at that point. But how can you be sure that the changes does not cause new regressions without some kind of more automatic testing (like unit tests then)?