From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scott Otterson Subject: Re: Feature request: HTML table formatting Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4633FA0A.1000201@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhyfI-0005YD-Hf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:57:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhyfI-0005Y1-0y for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:57:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhyfH-0005Xy-Ry for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:57:27 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HhyZG-0004Xn-3o for Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:51:14 -0400 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C832C219657 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [209.91.60.150]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409E236E6 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:51:12 -0400 (EDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org I'll agree with Daniel that sometimes, it's useful to have vertical table separators. Here's how I kind-of do it: | asdlfj | | alsjfdas | |--------+---+----------| | alsdjf | | aqsljf | | asdljf | | asldjf | This is visible enough inside of org-mode and it yields a widish gap in exported html -- it's a horizontal screen space waster, though. I suppose one way to denote a vertical separator without adding an extra symbol would be to allow tables in org-mode that look like this: | asdlfj || alsjfdas | |--------++----------| | alsdjf || aqsljf | | asdljf || asldjf | The exporter could then detect '||' and convert it to a vertical html line. Scott > Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:23:16 +0200 > From: Carsten Dominik > > On Apr 12, 2007, at 20:48, Daniel J. Sinder wrote: > >> > >> > I think rejecting vertical rules as a matter of style is a mistake. >> > Whether you consider org-mode tables to be a markup or a >> > spreadsheet, it's peers -- HTML, LaTeX, Gnumeric, Excel, etc. -- >> > will all produce tables with vertical rules if asked to do so. I'm >> > wary of tools that enforce style. I'd prefer to read the style >> > guide and then decide for myself (that is, use it as a *guide* not >> > an edict). >> > > Fair enough. > >> > However, if vertical rules are too clunky, difficult, >> > time-consuming, or low priority to implement, that's an entirely >> > different matter that I can fully understand. >> > > As I said, I don't want to have a special separator for this, > implementation would be very cumbersome and I'd like > to be able to have ! as a character in a table field. > Maybe something like a special #+FORMAT line above the table > to set special formatting directives. > > - Carsten