Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[bill.sloman]

On Apr 22, 8:49 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
> Ignorant Bastard Poster
>
> On 22 Apr 2007 11:32:34 -0700, therm...@india.com wrote:
>
> >Dr Gideon Polya published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific
> >career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text
> >"Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (Taylor & Francis,
> >New York & London, 2003), and is currently editing a completed book on
> >global avoidable mortality (numerous articles on this matter can be
> >found by a simple Google search for "Gideon Polya" and on his
> >websites:
>
> >Here is the BRILLIANT AND INCISIVE ANALYSIS:
>
> >http://countercurrents.org/polya230407.htm<------
>
> >Dr Polya, we are incredibly proud of you. God Bless you for your
> >courage.

Note that Dr. Polya comes from Tasmania - the Australian state where I
was born.

Meanwhile, Jim's decline continues - he has now committed top posting.
Institutionalisation can't be far away.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[joseph2k]

thermate@india.com wrote:

> Dr Gideon Polya published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific
> career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text
> "Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (Taylor & Francis,
> New York & London, 2003), and is currently editing a completed book on
> global avoidable mortality (numerous articles on this matter can be
> found by a simple Google search for "Gideon Polya" and on his
> websites:
> 
> Here is the BRILLIANT AND INCISIVE ANALYSIS:
> 
> http://countercurrents.org/polya230407.htm <------
> 
> Dr Polya, we are incredibly proud of you. God Bless you for your
> courage.
That certainly does not qualify as analysis, and clearly falls short of
brilliant or incisive let alone both together.
-- 
 JosephKK
 Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.  
  --Schiller

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[The Real Andy]

On 22 Apr 2007 17:17:40 -0700, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

>On Apr 22, 8:49 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
>Web-Site.com> wrote:
>> Ignorant Bastard Poster
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2007 11:32:34 -0700, therm...@india.com wrote:
>>
>> >Dr Gideon Polya published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific
>> >career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text
>> >"Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (Taylor & Francis,
>> >New York & London, 2003), and is currently editing a completed book on
>> >global avoidable mortality (numerous articles on this matter can be
>> >found by a simple Google search for "Gideon Polya" and on his
>> >websites:
>>
>> >Here is the BRILLIANT AND INCISIVE ANALYSIS:
>>
>> >http://countercurrents.org/polya230407.htm<------
>>
>> >Dr Polya, we are incredibly proud of you. God Bless you for your
>> >courage.
>
>Note that Dr. Polya comes from Tasmania - the Australian state where I
>was born.
>
>Meanwhile, Jim's decline continues - he has now committed top posting.
>Institutionalisation can't be far away.

 A few home truths, but when i read this kind of diatribe:

"The past and present US mass murder and genocide is largely
un-reported by lying, racist, genocide-ignoring Mainstream media and
Racist Bush-ite (RB) America (and its lackey Racist White Australia)
are ruled by régimes locked into denial over the seriousness of global
warming"

Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
makes.

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[Quadibloc]

The Real Andy wrote:
> Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
> makes.
.
I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
imagination.

(Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)

John Savard

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[bill.sloman]

On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Real Andy wrote:
> > Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
> > makes.
>
> .
> I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
> edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
> imagination.
>
> (Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
> Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)

The effect is - in fact - more severely damaged by your confusion
between Tasmania - where Dr. Polya actually lives - and Tanzania which
is a country in Africa with a name similar enough to confuse semi-
literate Americans. Tasmania is a reasonably large island (about the
same size as Ireland) a couple of hundred miles south of the
Australian mainland. It is a state of Australia (not Austria, which is
where you'd need to go for edelweiss).

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:00:56 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> The Real Andy wrote:
>> > Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
>> > makes.
>> .
>> I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
>> edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
>> imagination.
>>
>> (Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
>> Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)
> 
> The effect is - in fact - more severely damaged by your confusion
> between Tasmania - where Dr. Polya actually lives - and Tanzania which
> is a country in Africa with a name similar enough to confuse semi-
> literate Americans. Tasmania is a reasonably large island (about the
> same size as Ireland) a couple of hundred miles south of the
> Australian mainland. It is a state of Australia (not Austria, which is
> where you'd need to go for edelweiss).

LOL!

Thanks!
Rich

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[bill.sloman]

On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> The Real Andy wrote:
> > Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
> > makes.
>
> .
> I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
> edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
> imagination.
>
> (Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
> Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)

What really spoils the effect is that Dr. Polya lives in Tasmania, a
state of Australia, and not in Tanzania, which is a country in East
Africa.

Semi-literate Americans do tend to confuse the two places, as they
also tend confuse Australia and Austria. Oddly enough, edelweiss grows
in Austria, so Dr. Polya would have to import it from Europe if he
were in the habit of dining on edelweiss - which would be an eccentric
habit, even in Austria, where the flower doesn't form part of the
normal diet.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[Fred Bloggs]

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> 
>>The Real Andy wrote:
>>
>>>Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
>>>makes.
>>
>>.
>>I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
>>edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
>>imagination.
>>
>>(Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
>>Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)
> 
> 
> What really spoils the effect is that Dr. Polya lives in Tasmania, a
> state of Australia, and not in Tanzania, which is a country in East
> Africa.
> 
> Semi-literate Americans do tend to confuse the two places, as they
> also tend confuse Australia and Austria. Oddly enough, edelweiss grows
> in Austria, so Dr. Polya would have to import it from Europe if he
> were in the habit of dining on edelweiss - which would be an eccentric
> habit, even in Austria, where the flower doesn't form part of the
> normal diet.
> 
> --
> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
> 

Is there any civilized life in Tasmania? It looks like just another 
natural wonderland that was raped, pillaged, exploited for its 
resources, and left behind. Even the official tourism site makes the 
place seem dull and bereft of any kind of enthusiasm, warning the 
prospective visitor that life is slow there. I did not know Erol Flynn 
was from there. That's something anyway. They might consider making his 
boyhood home a museum or something. And was that Gunn Forestry you know 
so well?

Re: *** Dr G Polya BRILLIANTLY analyses the Virgina Shooting Incident ***

[bill.sloman]

On Apr 27, 12:59 pm, Fred Bloggs <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >>The Real Andy wrote:
>
> >>>Makes me wonder about the credibility of any statement Dr Gideon Polya
> >>>makes.
>
> >>.
> >>I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
> >>edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
> >>imagination.
>
> >>(Note that "Tanzanian" is pronounced Tan.zan._ee_.yan, not
> >>Tan._zayn_.ee.an; one wouldn't want to spoil the effect.)
>
> > What really spoils the effect is that Dr. Polya lives in Tasmania, a
> > state of Australia, and not in Tanzania, which is a country in East
> > Africa.
>
> > Semi-literate Americans do tend to confuse the two places, as they
> > also tend confuse Australia and Austria. Oddly enough, edelweiss grows
> > in Austria, so Dr. Polya would have to import it from Europe if he
> > were in the habit of dining on edelweiss - which would be an eccentric
> > habit, even in Austria, where the flower doesn't form part of the
> > normal diet.
>
> > --
> > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
>
> Is there any civilized life in Tasmania? It looks like just another
> natural wonderland that was raped, pillaged, exploited for its
> resources, and left behind.

The pillaging and rapine continues. The Green Party has managed to
protect some of the more interesting elements of the ecology, but the
paper mills where my father was research manager for as long as we
lived in Tasmania continues to chop down a lot of trees. They liked to
claim that their wood felling was sustainable, but since the cycle of
felling and regrowth they had in mind at the time worked on a 200 year
cycle, and the business was set up in the late 1930s, there wasn't a
lot of farmed timber going into the wood chippers at the time. How it
works at the moment isn't clear - two hundred year old wood isn't
ideal for making paper.

>Even the official tourism site makes the
> place seem dull and bereft of any kind of enthusiasm, warning the
> prospective visitor that life is slow there.

The population is only around 350,000 on an island the size of
Ireland. The state has the highest fertility and the lowest rate of
population growth of all the Australian states - anybody who is any
good leaves, as I did, and pursues a career someplace where there are
careers worth pursuing.

> I did not know Erol Flynn was from there.

He was born there, but left Tasmania fairly early (like everybody
else) - his father, the "distinguished Australian marine biologist/
zoologist Prof. Theodore Thomson Flynn" was presumably working at the
University of Tasmania in Hobart in 1909.

>That's something anyway. They might consider making his
> boyhood home a museum or something. And was that Gunn Forestry you know
> so well.

I don't know anything about Gunn Forestry.

The Green Party obviously doesn't like it, but they do have a tendency
to describe 25-year-old regrowth forests as "virgin primeval
rainforest" because the lie plays better to their target audience than
would the more nuanced truth.

The paper mill where my father worked had to severely restrict the
proportion of old-growth wood - trunks more than four feet (1,2
metres) in diameter - because the lignin in the older wood contained a
relatively high proportion of some organic acid that messed up the
caustic soda recovery cycle - and IIRR preferentially logged regrowth
forests that had grown up in areas clear-felled after the first world
war in order to provide cattle-raising farms for soldiers coming back
from the First World War. The farms were not successful, and the land
rapidly went back to forest.

My father was the guy who worked out that a high proportion of old
wood was what messed up the soda recovery process, and he hired the
Norwegian chemist - Asbjorn Baklien - who worked out how the old wood
caused the problem. Asbjorn went on to a brilliant career with ICI and
Monash University.

http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/bsparcs/biogs/P003354b.htm

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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[Quadibloc]

bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:09 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

> > I never thought that I would feel the urge to call someone an
> > edelweiss-eating Tanzanian devil, but Dr. Polya proved that I lacked
> > imagination.
.
> The effect is - in fact - more severely damaged by your confusion
> between Tasmania - where Dr. Polya actually lives - and Tanzania which
> is a country in Africa with a name similar enough to confuse semi-
> literate Americans.
.
Had you read his essay, as I did, you would have known that even if I
had had the two countries confused previously, Dr. Polya would have
disabused me of any such confusion before I finished his essay.

Rather, the point of my remark, as ought to be clear, was that such an
epithet - by displaying conspicuous disregard for the distinction
between Tasmania and Tanzania, and the distinction between Australia
and Austria, *both at the same time* - is intended to be insulting,
and the author's vituperative attack on the United States makes him
deserving of insult.

Australia - Tasmania included - would today be under the iron heel of
Imperial Japan had it not been for the armed might of the United
States of America!

John Savard

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[jasen]

On 2007-04-28, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

> Australia - Tasmania included - would today be under the iron heel of
> Imperial Japan had it not been for the armed might of the United
> States of America!

Please do not feed the trolls.

Bye.
   Jasen