From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to redefine Parantheses? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:50:39 +0200 Organization: nil Message-ID: <461bea8f$0$23148$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> References: <57rjbgF2eksvjU1@mid.individual.net> <4618b74e$0$23142$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <46195b6b$0$23139$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <461a003b$0$23145$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <461a79e0$0$20296$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <461bcaf8$0$6405$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> Reply-To: angeli@caeruleus.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176268207 15199 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2007 05:10:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:10:07 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 11 07:09:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HbN5e-0003PX-GU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:37:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HbN9c-0004Is-BU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:41:28 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newshunter!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.utanet.at!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.96 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:u/G1x+xd9SW6zn3Wh6/agfNVLEA= Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Apr 2007 21:50:40 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: a3d617f9.newsspool1.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=]@l0ojOKSd1D]ncZ]`hZ; 1ic==]BZ:af>4Fo<]lROoR1Fl8W>\BH3Y2lj^i]OE List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:42574 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii (2007-04-10) writes: >> From: Ralf Angeli >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:35:53 +0200 >> >> > Ah, but other things are not really the same, since I don't regard the >> > behavior you want as 100% correct. >> >> Please be more precise. Are you referring to movement commands? > > That, and the paren-matching features (e.g., show-paren-mode). We are running round in circles. (c: Those features fail for 50% of the users and leave them irritated. If the default syntax is changed to punctuation, there will be no irritated users and those who want paren-related movement and matching can enable the feature by setting the syntax to _their_ preference. So they could manually emulate part of the feature you describe as missing. FWIW, in AUCTeX we've set the syntax of guillemets to punctuation since 2004 and since then we haven't got a single complaint about missing or mislead paren matching. -- Ralf