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From: Ralf Angeli <dev.null@caeruleus.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to redefine Parantheses?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:58:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461a003b$0$23145$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1848.1176098439.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

* Eli Zaretskii (2007-04-09) writes:

>> From: Ralf Angeli <dev.null@caeruleus.net>
>> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:15:23 +0200
>> 
>> >> No, the default syntax in Emacs has to be changed.
>> >
>> > ????
>> 
>> Well, the default syntax is obviously wrong since you cannot rely on
>> guillemets being used parenthetical in a certain order.
>
> In many (most?) languages, the current syntax does make sense.

I just looked at the csquotes LaTeX package which deals with quotation
marks in different languages.  The author made a survey about the use
of quotation marks in different languages when he implemented the
package.  Here are results of using it with different language
options:

»danish«
« french »
»german«
«german (swiss variant)»
«italian»
»swedish»

So there is no clear indication of which variant is more common.  In
Swedish guillemets aren't even used parenthetical.  I really don't
understand why the default syntax in Emacs is paren syntax.
Guillemets are quotation marks which are not consistently used in a
parenthetical way, so using paren syntax is clearly a bug.  And I
don't understand why one does not simply give them punctuation syntax
in order to get rid of the bug and stop this issue from popping up
again and again.

> Anyway, this kind of discussion doesn't belong here.  I just tried to
> help the OP to solve the immediate problem.

Well, I tried so too.  But I don't think is a customization issue but
a bug in Emacs.

-- 
Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-08  7:19 How to redefine Parantheses? Paul Batt
2007-04-08  8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <mailman.1835.1176020435.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-08  9:35   ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-08 21:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.1844.1176066558.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-08 21:15       ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-09  5:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-09  6:22           ` David Hansen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1849.1176100080.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-09  9:20             ` Ralf Angeli
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1848.1176098439.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-09  8:58           ` Ralf Angeli [this message]
2007-04-09 15:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1877.1176139102.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-09 17:37               ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-10  3:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1897.1176174905.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-10 17:35                   ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-10 19:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1921.1176233276.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-10 19:50                       ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-11  3:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1934.1176262700.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-11 16:53                           ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-11 18:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-09 16:48   ` Paul Batt
2007-04-09 18:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.1882.1176143496.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-10  6:36       ` Paul Batt
2007-04-10 17:42         ` Ralf Angeli
2007-04-10 18:21           ` Paul Batt
2007-04-10 18:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1919.1176231393.7795.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-04-11 10:46           ` Paul Batt
2007-04-08 11:14 ` Peter Dyballa

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