> (make-frame `( > (parent-frame . ,(window-frame)) > (child-frame-border-width . 0) > (internal-border-width . 200))) > > I would expect the border width to only fall back if > child-frame-border-width is nil, since 0 is a useful setting. It's not entirely trivial to do that (frame parameters are a pain in this regard) but please have a look at the attached patch (tested on a GTK build only). Alexander, please have a look too. Thanks, martin