Re: GOAL keyword with DEADLINE semantics?

From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: Austin Frank <austin.frank@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GOAL keyword with DEADLINE semantics?
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:01:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FD3D92-E16C-477C-BBF7-7BF00DF4E479@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m0prgsqb52.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi Austin,

since you want to use the same semantics as for deadlines, i.e. the  
same warning period etc, this really is a psychological issue :-)

It is trouble to implement a new keyword or number of keywords.  New  
commands needed to insert this new keyowrd, for example, and many  
regular expressions to generalize.  What I would do if I was bothered  
by this would be

(setq org-deadline-string "DUE:")

which captures both the colors of DEADLINE and GOAL pretty well, I  
think.

In fact, I wish I had made this the default from beginning,
a much shorter and  nicer word.  Now it is too late to change this, I
am afraid.....

- Carsten

On Mar 8, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Austin Frank wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Currently we can use the DEADLINE keyword to indicate a target date  
> for
> an item to be finished.  By my way of thinking, deadlines make sense  
> for
> externally imposed constraints.  I also try to set goals for myself  
> for
> when an item will be completed.  These are softer than deadlines, but
> I think they could share the same semantics for creation, display, and
> export.
>
> Would it be possible to make `org-deadline-string' a list of strings
> that get handled in the same way as DEADLINE is currently handled?   
> That
> way I could do things like
>
> * TODO write first chapter
>  GOAL:  <2009-03-09 Mon>
>
> * TODO submit manuscript
>  GOAL:  <2009-05-15 Fri>
>  DEADLINE:  <2009-06-01 Mon>
>
> Where the first represents my own planning process and the second
> contains my target completion date (trying to work ahead!) and the  
> hard
> constraint imposed by whoever I'm submitting to.  In all cases, I'd  
> like
> agenda notification as the date approaches, I'd like to know if I've
> passed it by, and I'd like the option of including it in ical export.
>
> Or maybe I should just learn to treat my GOALs like DEADLINEs and stop
> letting myself off the hook so easily ;)
>
> Do other people think about things this way?  Would you have a use for
> a customizable list of keywords that all had the same semantics that
> DEADLINE currently has?
>
> Thanks for considering it,
> /au
>
> -- 
> Austin Frank
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